Donald I, emperor of the world.

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Ian H

Squire
Have they got a social club, like the Wheeltappers & Shunters?

They did have, but it went up in flames.
 

Ianonabike

New Member
I think it's objectively preferable to hate a person because of their politics than to hate people simply for existing.

Which is what Charlie Kirk did.
For a man frequently on the record for wanting more people, not fewer, this is quite a leap. Meanwhile, to belabour the obvious, someone certainly hated him for existing.
 

Rusty Nails

Country Member
For a man frequently on the record for wanting more people, not fewer, this is quite a leap. Meanwhile, to belabour the obvious, someone certainly hated him for existing.

I doubt that is true or as simple as you make it. Of course you have to exist to be hated but Kirk was more likely hated for the views he famously promoted. If he was hated for existing it would have been for something natal like his colour or race, and it is unlikely Robinson would have hated him if he had been just an anonymous plumber living in the same street.
 
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Ianonabike

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I doubt that is true or as simple as you make it. Of course you have to exist to be hated but Kirk was more likely hated for the views he famously promoted. If he was hated for existing it would have been for something natal like his colour or race, and it is unlikely Robinson would have hated him if he had been just an anonymous plumber living in the same street.
Do you take issue with the quote I was replying to - that Kirk hated people for simply existing?
 

Rusty Nails

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Do you take issue with the quote I was replying to - that Kirk hated people for simply existing?

I doubt that Kirk hated people for simply existing, but did think less of people who did not live in his narrowly defined version of religion and morals.

Do you think that Robinson hated him just for existing, and not for the promotion (and monetisation?) of his version of religion and morality?
 
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Ianonabike

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I doubt that Kirk hated people for simply existing, but did think less of people who did not live in his narrowly defined version of religion and morals.
Do you think so? I don't. If he thought so little of them he wouldn't have spent so much of his time debating them, particularly in the respectful manner I've seen time and again.

Do you think that Robinson hated him just for existing, and not for the promotion (and monetisation?) of his version of religion and morality?
I was mirroring the quote, and curious why you didn't complain about that but went straight for mine.
 

Pinno718

Über Member
The text messages between Robinson and his trans lover (yes, you heard me) have emerged.
Robinson left a note saying he has the opportunity to kill Kirk. He was 'sick of his hatred.
My initial thoughts is that he was in a relationship with a trans and this was probably unacceptable to his Mormon family. His roommate and partner had no idea that he had planned to kill Kirk.
The problem I see immediately is that the loony right will try to claim that he was radicalised by a trans which simply adds fuel to their fire.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mP1YaqiB7-c
 
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Rusty Nails

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Do you think so? I don't. If he thought so little of them he wouldn't have spent so much of his time debating them, particularly in the respectful manner I've seen time and again.


I was mirroring the quote, and curious why you didn't complain about that but went straight for mine.

If he hadn't had the gimmick of debating college students he wouldn't have had the publicity or made the money he had. I do not define a calm, calculated response as necessarily respectful. He knew how to look good in debates where he had the advantage in experience. He lost that 'respectful' manner a few times in the Cambridge debates when he was put under pressure to answer in other than rehearsed clichés.

I went straight for yours because I thought you were wrong. (In re-reading XT's post it could equally be read as saying Robinson hated him for his politics). I have been on this forum quite a bit in the past couple of days but strangely enough I do not respond to every post or indeed everyone that I disagree with.

Do you think that Robinson hated him just for existing, and not for the promotion (and monetisation?) of his version of religion and morality?

What is your response to my earlier question to you?
 
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icowden

Shaman
Good news folks. Donny is in the UK and we have rolled out the red carpet;
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We've also got one of our publicly owned TV Stations dedicating a day of programming to the Donald:
https://www.channel4.com/press/news/channel-4-announces-night-tv-dedicated-donald-trump-untruths
Ian Katz, Chief Content Officer says: “Donald J Trump loves making history. So, on Wednesday Channel 4 will do just that: we’ll show what we believe to be the longest uninterrupted reel of untruths, falsehoods and distortions ever broadcast on television. We hope it will remind viewers how disorientating and dangerous the world becomes when the most powerful man on earth shows little regard for the truth. And if President Trump cares to watch along after the state banquet, he may even clear up a few misconceptions.”
 

Pinno718

Über Member
Good news folks. Donny is in the UK and we have rolled out the red carpet;
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We've also got one of our publicly owned TV Stations dedicating a day of programming to the Donald:
https://www.channel4.com/press/news/channel-4-announces-night-tv-dedicated-donald-trump-untruths

There was also Epstein/Trump messages cast on one of the walls of Windsor castle. Also 'merch':
https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/ne...h-windsor-castle-uk-state-visit-b2827015.html
 
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