Donald I, emperor of the world.

[Ian H]

It's not a given he was racist.

He appeared to be against anything that mitigated the racism endemic in much of US society.

 

[briantrumpet]

It's not a given he was racist.

That might be worth discussing, though I think you'll have to be quite creative with definitions to argue that he wasn't, given his verified statements on a number of issues (pilots, Michelle Obama, MLK, George Floyd, DEI, Civil Rights, etc.

 

[Ianonabike]

I'm going to take the easy way out for the moment and let someone else address Kirk and race.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N14ywRyTWVI

(It's a long video. If you go to Youtube there are timestamps on the content about racism.)

See also


View: https://youtu.be/x4y4d9QV45E?si=Z5h8irfUlWb3UuAy&t=178

 

[Shortfall]

Are you suggesting that Led by Donkeys should be impartial

No they can lampoon whatever they want, but their Wikipedia entry does say "After the 2024 election of a Labour government, it defined itself as an "accountability project" and stated that the Labour government was also fair game. "
As well as ".......it's four founders have been calling out what they call "thermonuclear hypocrisy" and used satire targeted at pro-Brexit politicians."
So I'm just making the observation that they're not really an accountability project because so far as I can make out they've failed to target the Labour government (for all it's failings) and if they're only going after Reform and the Tories they're missing an open goal with Labour and their thermonuclear hypocrisy . Am I allowed to say that that they seem like a bunch of middle class twits who are preaching to the converted and they're also a bit sh1t?

 

[Pinno718]

Er... let's have the conversation?

What conversation? You are being ambiguous.

 

[Pinno718]

No they can lampoon whatever they want, but their Wikipedia entry does say "After the 2024 election of a Labour government, it defined itself as an "accountability project" and stated that the Labour government was also fair game. "
As well as ".......it's four founders have been calling out what they call "thermonuclear hypocrisy" and used satire targeted at pro-Brexit politicians."
So I'm just making the observation that they're not really an accountability project because so far as I can make out they've failed to target the Labour government (for all it's failings) and if they're only going after Reform and the Tories they're missing an open goal with Labour and their thermonuclear hypocrisy . Am I allowed to say that that they seem like a bunch of middle class twits who are preaching to the converted and they're also a bit sh1t?

This is the Trump thread.

 

[Pinno718]

Has anybody here said that?

Lots of videos out there of black people who were fans of Kirk btw.

Does not make what Kirk said acceptable.
If I see a Black pilot, I'm going to be like, boy, I hope he's qualified

 

[Pinno718]

Does not make what Kirk said acceptable.
If I see a Black pilot, I'm going to be like, boy, I hope he's qualified

Did you read the article in the Guardian where they listed Kirk's actual comments? I gave the link.
When you read through it, get back to me.

 

[secretsqirrel]

Sobering….

 

[Pross]

The amount of strawmen appearing on here, it’s like a Wurzel Gummidge convention