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It's not a given he was racist.

That might be worth discussing, though I think you'll have to be quite creative with definitions to argue that he wasn't, given his verified statements on a number of issues (pilots, Michelle Obama, MLK, George Floyd, DEI, Civil Rights, etc.
 

Shortfall

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Are you suggesting that Led by Donkeys should be impartial :laugh:

No they can lampoon whatever they want, but their Wikipedia entry does say "After the 2024 election of a Labour government, it defined itself as an "accountability project" and stated that the Labour government was also fair game. "
As well as ".......it's four founders have been calling out what they call "thermonuclear hypocrisy" and used satire targeted at pro-Brexit politicians."
So I'm just making the observation that they're not really an accountability project because so far as I can make out they've failed to target the Labour government (for all it's failings) and if they're only going after Reform and the Tories they're missing an open goal with Labour and their thermonuclear hypocrisy . Am I allowed to say that that they seem like a bunch of middle class twits who are preaching to the converted and they're also a bit sh1t?
 
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Pinno718

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No they can lampoon whatever they want, but their Wikipedia entry does say "After the 2024 election of a Labour government, it defined itself as an "accountability project" and stated that the Labour government was also fair game. "
As well as ".......it's four founders have been calling out what they call "thermonuclear hypocrisy" and used satire targeted at pro-Brexit politicians."
So I'm just making the observation that they're not really an accountability project because so far as I can make out they've failed to target the Labour government (for all it's failings) and if they're only going after Reform and the Tories they're missing an open goal with Labour and their thermonuclear hypocrisy . Am I allowed to say that that they seem like a bunch of middle class twits who are preaching to the converted and they're also a bit sh1t?

This is the Trump thread.
 

Pinno718

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Does not make what Kirk said acceptable.
If I see a Black pilot, I'm going to be like, boy, I hope he's qualified

Did you read the article in the Guardian where they listed Kirk's actual comments? I gave the link.
When you read through it, get back to me.
 

secretsqirrel

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Sobering….
 

Shortfall

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This is the Trump thread.

Yeah the same one you're talking about (checks notes) Charlie Kirk on. My comment about Led by Donkeys was in response to somebody else raising the subject of a picture of DONALD TRUMP being projected onto Windsor Castle where DONALD TRUMP was enjoying the company of the Royal Family. Hope that helps.
 
Just to go back to this, when a man kills someone for his supposed hatred, i.e., Kirk reaped what he sowed (according to many), there's a conversation to be had about what constitutes hate.

I never said Kirk reaped what he sowed. That implies he deserved to be murdered for his views. I don't believe that his murder is justified in any way. I said that in spite of his unjustifiable death, we are still able to have a discussion about Kirk's beliefs and in my opinion, many of his opinions and beliefs sought to sow division amongst people.
 
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I'm glad they've found something to poke fun at again. It's not like there's been anything worth satirising in the news lately, like oh I dont know, 2 high profile resignations from government, the collapse of the economy whilst ministers continue to trouser freebies, a floundering, lying PM who is living on borrowed time. Stick it to the Yanks though lads!!

Maybe someone needs to tell Reform councillors too. They seem to be upset that the Wales isn't in mourning too for Kirk.

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