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What in the name of Trump is an exododus?

Maybe an could it be a portmanteau of ex and dodo?
 

briantrumpet

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I'm not sure that Copilot is very good at reading.

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CXRAndy

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The same is already taking place in California. The exodus is already taking place due to sky high tax rates, massive costs of living and affordability of property. The average price of a property in California is $900k, double the average across many other states.

Recent years of 300k per year leaving. Congressional seats are expected to drop due to less population in California

The exodus of people leaving are going to Texas, Arizona, Florida.


There is no reason not to believe the same will not happen to New York, many who get tax squeezed, combined with falling safety and living conditions will leave
 

stowie

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The same is already taking place in California. The exodus is already taking place due to sky high tax rates, massive costs of living and affordability of property. The average price of a property in California is $900k, double the average across many other states.

Recent years of 300k per year leaving. Congressional seats are expected to drop due to less population in California

The exodus of people leaving are going to Texas, Arizona, Florida.


There is no reason not to believe the same will not happen to New York, many who get tax squeezed, combined with falling safety and living conditions will leave

Is the California population actually decreasing? Certainly 2021/2022 saw decrease in population from 39.5M people to 39M people. I suspect the pandemic (amongst other things) contributed.

However, California governor issued a press release in May this year which said that California's population rose in 2024 by around 100k people. It is still the most populous state in the US and is still the wealthiest state (in terms of GDP, although not in GDP per capita).

I do agree that costs of living and property prices in "hot-spots" in California are just crazy. Frankly, much of it is around Silicon Valley and some rebalancing would not go amiss. Silicon Valley now hosts quite a lot of mature industry and priorities of mature businesses change.

As for New York - I think people have been awaiting the demise of New York for many decades. It survived being a financial basket case in the 70's, and the crime issues in the 80's and 90's which far exceeded the challenges it faces in the 2020's.
 

First Aspect

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Is the California population actually decreasing? Certainly 2021/2022 saw decrease in population from 39.5M people to 39M people. I suspect the pandemic (amongst other things) contributed.

However, California governor issued a press release in May this year which said that California's population rose in 2024 by around 100k people. It is still the most populous state in the US and is still the wealthiest state (in terms of GDP, although not in GDP per capita).

I do agree that costs of living and property prices in "hot-spots" in California are just crazy. Frankly, much of it is around Silicon Valley and some rebalancing would not go amiss. Silicon Valley now hosts quite a lot of mature industry and priorities of mature businesses change.

As for New York - I think people have been awaiting the demise of New York for many decades. It survived being a financial basket case in the 70's, and the crime issues in the 80's and 90's which far exceeded the challenges it faces in the 2020's.
https://www.sfchronicle.com/california/article/population-growth-immigration-19994083.php

California coast is always going to be expensive, because it's sunny, not too hot and there's not very much of it. The central valley is pretty shoot in comparison. I could imagine it being a flip of a coin between there and somewhere else inhospitably hot for 8 months of the year like Phoenix.
 
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