Donald I, emperor of the world.

[Pinno718]

Kind of, but Xi is nothing if not clever, and the buffoon in Washington is trying to do business deals directly on behalf of industries that don't necessarily want them, instead of international diomacy to facilitate them. All this is a huge economic opportunity for China - which is increasingly looking like a more trustworthy and stable industrial partner. We might be wary, but South America, India, Asia will probably prefer working with a country that doesn't dick people around.

In turn I suspect this means not acting like a global pirate like Trump, because the cost to do so isnt worthwhile.

There were trade talks between China, Japan and S Korea immediately after the tariffs were imposed.

 

[Mad Doug Biker]

Greenland is the world's biggest island and Trump thinks it's the greatest island ever, except for that one he never went to, of course.


Sorry, I'll settle down and just read the thread again. 🤣

 

[Psamathe]

I guess we now know Britain's stance on Venezuela.
Would be nice if Starmer had the balls to come out and say so publicly.

We probably need to distinguish between Britain's stance and Starmer's stance.

 

[Psamathe]

There were trade talks between China, Japan and S Korea immediately after the tariffs were imposed.

You mean at the same time as Starmer was 110% focused on sycophantising Trümp, swamping him in flattery and praise whilst other trading opportunities drifted to other countries.

 

[Beebo]

We probably need to distinguish between Britain's stance and Starmer's stance.

If UK and US elections take place as they should, then Trump will be out of office before the next UK general election.
So none of the potential PMs in waiting have any reason to be deferential to Trump. But Starmer is in a much harder position as he has to work with Trump for the next 3years.

 

[Pblakeney]

We probably need to distinguish between Britain's stance and Starmer's stance.

Fair point. I'd happily change Britain and Starmer both to "the UK Government".
In any case, we are the US's lap dog.

 

[Psamathe]

Maybe Trűmp's/White House language highlights what is so wrong about the US stated intent. They seem to want to "acquire" Greenland like it's a new car or a new house. I regard Government as the people deciding on and organising their leaders to govern according to their wishes. It's not about "owning". Do the people of Greenland really want to become "owned" by the US Government?

The word "acquire" seems to completely miss the point that a country is about people not about buying stuff to own. "Acquire" seems almost sociopathic ignoring the wishes of the nationals of that country and just regarding it as an asset to be traded by wealthy powerful with no connection to the country and no real interest in the prosperity of its nationals.

 

[CXRAndy]

We probably need to distinguish between Britain's stance and Starmer's stance.

You think the British are siding with the outraged left or Trump's arrest of Maduro

I can tell you it's the latter for sure.

 

[Pblakeney]

Maybe Trűmp's/White House language highlights what is so wrong about the US stated intent. They seem to want to "acquire" Greenland like it's a new car or a new house. I regard Government as the people deciding on and organising their leaders to govern according to their wishes. It's not about "owning". Do the people of Greenland really want to become "owned" by the US Government?

The word "acquire" seems to completely miss the point that a country is about people not about buying stuff to own. "Acquire" seems almost sociopathic ignoring the wishes of the nationals of that country and just regarding it as an asset to be traded by wealthy powerful with no connection to the country and no real interest in the prosperity of its nationals.

A nice summary of where we are right now regarding US/Greenland.
The answer to your question, no. They do not want to become the 51st State. Does anyone country?

 

[secretsqirrel]

Maybe Trűmp's/White House language highlights what is so wrong about the US stated intent. They seem to want to "acquire" Greenland like it's a new car or a new house. I regard Government as the people deciding on and organising their leaders to govern according to their wishes. It's not about "owning". Do the people of Greenland really want to become "owned" by the US Government?

The word "acquire" seems to completely miss the point that a country is about people not about buying stuff to own. "Acquire" seems almost sociopathic ignoring the wishes of the nationals of that country and just regarding it as an asset to be traded by wealthy powerful with no connection to the country and no real interest in the prosperity of its nationals.

Trumps language reveals that he is not a politician. He understands the world as business.

I want to buy Greenland
I will manage the profit of the venezuelan oil
I want a deal
Gaza real estate
etc. etc…

And we all know about his business acumen 🤔 ………..

 

[Pross]

Maybe Trűmp's/White House language highlights what is so wrong about the US stated intent. They seem to want to "acquire" Greenland like it's a new car or a new house. I regard Government as the people deciding on and organising their leaders to govern according to their wishes. It's not about "owning". Do the people of Greenland really want to become "owned" by the US Government?

The word "acquire" seems to completely miss the point that a country is about people not about buying stuff to own. "Acquire" seems almost sociopathic ignoring the wishes of the nationals of that country and just regarding it as an asset to be traded by wealthy powerful with no connection to the country and no real interest in the prosperity of its nationals.

Trump is unable to see anything as being outside the realms of business deal though. He views everything as being up for negotiation and, if necessary, will pursue a hostile takeover. What makes it worse is he has never been as great a businessman as he thinks he is even in his supposed field of expertise (real estate) but now he seems to want to make decisions on behalf of successful businesses in other fields such as O&G or mining.

 

[Rusty Nails]

A nice summary of where we are right now regarding US/Greenland.
The answer to your question, no. They do not want to become the 51st State. Does anyone?

I can think of one person this forum who has wet dreams over the thought.

 

[Pblakeney]

I can think of one person this forum who has wet dreams over the thought.

I've edited my post accordingly. 😉

 

[Psamathe]

The answer to your question, no. They do not want to become the 51st State. Does anyone country?

If put to the referendum (in Greenland) the "No to being Acquired" would have a very easy case to make:

• Get unaffordable healthcare
• National Guard sent in is you elect the wrong party
• Get democratic voting manipulated by the party in power
• Get unsafe drinking water
• Get food safety standards discarded in the interests of corporate profits
• etc., etc.

 

[Pblakeney]

If put to the referendum (in Greenland) the "No to being Acquired" would have a very easy case to make:

• Get unaffordable healthcare
• National Guard sent in is you elect the wrong party
• Get democratic voting manipulated by the party in power
• Get unsafe drinking water
• Get food safety standards discarded in the interests of corporate profits
• etc., etc.

Apparently "Project Fear" overcomes logic though so there is some concern. 😉
Seriously though, since Donnie first raised the prospect the Greenlanders are against it.