Donald I, emperor of the world.

[Pinno718]

Hmmm. Mostly from the US.

They would have to filter all content that would be seen on a British based server. I think that would be unworkable, I did say 'a little'.

 

[Pinno718]

Strangely enough l heard a programme the other day on BBC R5 (maybe Dotun Adebayo) where he corrected a listener when they said ‘suicide’ and asked for ‘took own life‘ instead.

It's wokeism, we're being taken over by woke's I tell ya.

 

[secretsqirrel]

From the NSPCC website..

Accusatory language​

Individuals are sometimes described as having ‘committed’ suicide. This idea of suicide being ‘committed’ in the way a crime is ‘committed’ refers to a time when suicide was illegal and anyone who attempted suicide and survived could be at risk of imprisonment.

Suicide was decriminalised under the Suicide Act 1961, but the criminal implication still lingers in the language we use today. The notion of ‘committing’ or ‘trying to commit’ suicide implicitly accuses the child or young person of having done something wrong.

Any language which increases the stigma around suicide makes it harder for children and young people who may be struggling with suicidal thoughts or feelings to freely express their thoughts and seek help from others.

Stigmatising language can also make it harder for families to speak openly about their experiences. This can add to the trauma and complicate the grief of family members, friends and anyone else impacted when a child or young person dies by suicide.

 

[Pinno718]

In amongst all the fog and the noise and mis-information and hysteria, is Lawrence O'Donnell with clarity, presence and calm:


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlKTDSSRFkQ

 

[Pinno718]

From the NSPCC website..

Accusatory language​

Individuals are sometimes described as having ‘committed’ suicide. This idea of suicide being ‘committed’ in the way a crime is ‘committed’ refers to a time when suicide was illegal and anyone who attempted suicide and survived could be at risk of imprisonment.

Suicide was decriminalised under the Suicide Act 1961, but the criminal implication still lingers in the language we use today. The notion of ‘committing’ or ‘trying to commit’ suicide implicitly accuses the child or young person of having done something wrong.

Any language which increases the stigma around suicide makes it harder for children and young people who may be struggling with suicidal thoughts or feelings to freely express their thoughts and seek help from others.

Stigmatising language can also make it harder for families to speak openly about their experiences. This can add to the trauma and complicate the grief of family members, friends and anyone else impacted when a child or young person dies by suicide.

Oh I agree. One could argue that the censorship of certain nouns is sanitising. A bit like white washing. But what I think is that the NSPCC's emphasis is on the word 'committing' as if it's an offence, not the use of the word 'suicide'.

 

[Pblakeney]

From the NSPCC website..

Accusatory language​

Individuals are sometimes described as having ‘committed’ suicide. This idea of suicide being ‘committed’ in the way a crime is ‘committed’ refers to a time when suicide was illegal and anyone who attempted suicide and survived could be at risk of imprisonment.

Suicide was decriminalised under the Suicide Act 1961, but the criminal implication still lingers in the language we use today. The notion of ‘committing’ or ‘trying to commit’ suicide implicitly accuses the child or young person of having done something wrong.

Any language which increases the stigma around suicide makes it harder for children and young people who may be struggling with suicidal thoughts or feelings to freely express their thoughts and seek help from others.

Stigmatising language can also make it harder for families to speak openly about their experiences. This can add to the trauma and complicate the grief of family members, friends and anyone else impacted when a child or young person dies by suicide.

For context the one that triggered me was a YouTuber apologising the they couldn't say "financial suicide" and had to say "financial un-aliving".
It is stupid, mostly because there must be a better alternative, self destruction? But no, they use un-aliving.

 

[dutchguylivingintheuk]

From the NSPCC website..

Accusatory language​

Individuals are sometimes described as having ‘committed’ suicide. This idea of suicide being ‘committed’ in the way a crime is ‘committed’ refers to a time when suicide was illegal and anyone who attempted suicide and survived could be at risk of imprisonment.

Yeah they have a lot of those things but let me give an other examle and then ask a very simple question ''Cyclist'' is nowadays a crazy word so it is person a a bicycle.

Now do you think car drivers who are as$holes to persons on a bicycle will change their mind and suddenly think ''fark it is an person?''

i think the answer is no, so what the point in renaming everything?

 

[secretsqirrel]

For context the one that triggered me was a YouTuber apologising the they couldn't say "financial suicide" and had to say "financial un-aliving".
It is stupid, mostly because there must be a better alternative, self destruction? But no, they use un-aliving.

‘un-aliving‘ is stupid and very inelegant. Can’t see me introducing that into my vocabulary.

 

[Poacher]

I'm old enough to remember (just) when suicide was a criminal offence. If you were found not guilty, you were given a Christian burial, regardless of your religion or lack of one, but if you were found guilty you were left to rot in jail.

 

[Pinno718]

Yeah they have a lot of those things but let me give an other examle and then ask a very simple question ''Cyclist'' is nowadays a crazy word so it is person a a bicycle.

Now do you think car drivers who are as$holes to persons on a bicycle will change their mind and suddenly think ''fark it is an person?''

i think the answer is no, so what the point in renaming everything?

Yeabut, until the straights of Gibraltar is renamed 'The straights of Pinno', i'll not be happy.

 

[Bazzer]

Or 'rape' or 'paedophile' or 'sexual abuser'...
But it may have a little to do with the new UK online safety laws (Australia included).

I think it depends upon the channel and media. Tic Tok streams apparently cannot use "rape". So at least one user I have watched on live streams using both Tic Tok and Youtube substitutes "grape".
Unalived is also used for killed/murdered, but again this seems to depend upon the channel.

 

[secretsqirrel]

Anyway, I think that Greenland should now be officially known by its Inuit name Kalaallit Nunaat. If the orange idiot can’t say it then he might leave them alone.

 

[Mad Doug Biker]

Anyway, back on topic, vaguely, talking of words, I was wondering where this was going for a moment there:

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/188WWeRjUe/?mibextid=wwXIfr

 

[Pross]

You need to know where to look.

Long post but please don't overlook it as it will contradict your opinion some what (no offence intended) and will point you towards the detractors).

Of the main stream press:
CNN/CBS aren't too bad but have bent the knee a little. CBS's 60 minutes (a bit like the (brilliant) Brian Waldren Sunday hour of grilling politicians is excellent.

MS Now (formerly MSNBC News) have a clutch of commentators who are pretty good. For example Rachel Maddows who does not pull her punches, Ari Melber (who has a spin off series of daily reporting on Trump and particularly the Epstein files), Lawrence O'Donnell who does 'The last word' has been highly critical of Trump.
NYT is a bit a hit and miss though overall, critical of Trump. Even the Bezos owned Washington Post still print stuff true to their history of good investigative journalism.

Of the Youtubers (whom some of get more views than the main stream press):
Meidas touch (almost 6m subscribers and expanding quickly when they only had 2m at the beginning of Trump 2.0 and are setting up studios and correspondents in Canada and the UK). Ben Meiselas (whom I find a bit repetitive but he appeals to many) and Frazer Maxwell as well as others are on board with the Meidas Touch - the Scot Frazer Maxwell is extraordinarily articulate.

IHIP news is a pair of eclectic females who really put the knife in but also present things with facts.

Kyle Kulinski sees the bigger picture even if he tends to be a bit hyperbolic. He doesn't get any sponsorship and does not entertain any corporations, so his YT videos are completely ad free. He'll dig up the dirt in a way that others don't.

Some others to consider:
Keith Edwards
Chris Norlund
Adam Mochler
The Lincoln Project. Jack Wilson is brilliant.
Really American. A group of people quite happy to slate and mock Trump.

If you delve a bit deeper, it's amazing how many times the Daily Beast is referenced and LBC's James O'Brien - who recently did a very articulate slap down of Trump worthy of his idiocy in Davos.

O'Brien

The thing is, how many of the viewers for these are the ones the Democrats need to appeal to and how many of them are either already Democrats or not US citizens? My impression (no idea if it’s fair or not) is that the people that need to be turned are not very politically active. The same with populists everywhere they tend to feel disenfranchised and fed up with the establishment so just want easy solutions to their troubles. They’re not seeking out a wide range of views, just living off the echo chamber of their social media algorithms.

 

[Rusty Nails]

Yeabut, until the straights of Gibraltar is renamed 'The straights of Pinno', i'll not be happy.

That can be arranged strait away.