Donald I, emperor of the world.

[CXRAndy]

No. I asked for an explanation, not a question.

Google says

According to common United States meanings of conservative and liberal, libertarianism in the United States has been described as conservative on economic issues (economic liberalism and fiscal conservatism) and liberal on personal freedom (civil libertarianism and cultural liberalism).

 

[Psamathe]

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Weird thing about these/those diagrams is the position of the origin of the axes ie where is "zero" or "left" (red/green) changes to "right" (blue/purple). If one assumes it's the crossing point in the middle one would assume that corresponds to the "majority view" - but then how come so many politicians get elected so far from the "majority view". And if the crossing point is not the "majority" view what does it corrspond to given there are no absolute "left" or" right" measurement, only relative.

Ian

 

[monkers]

Google says

According to common United States meanings of conservative and liberal, libertarianism in the United States has been described as conservative on economic issues (economic liberalism and fiscal conservatism) and liberal on personal freedom (civil libertarianism and cultural liberalism).

You had to ask Google, yet you've been steadfast in taking up positions. The terms 'liberal' and 'libertarianism' have been subject to so much misuse and abuse that many people are not clear on the difference.

Trump is an authoritarian Liberal, as demonstrated on the graph, he is high on being a dictator, removing the personal freedoms of citizens, and being liberal (far right) on the economy. In other words - a fascist.

Conservative values traditionally meant centre right on the economy and mostly following traditional Christian values. While ostensibly Trump is a Christian, he is in reality a snake oil seller of bibles. He would see JC as weak and woke.

Ultra left policies (communism) include things like state owned and controlled public services and means of production. This is very different to socialism.

Farage's attraction is his broad appeal to bigots, thereby attracting support across the political economic spectrum. He is just another charlatan, a spiv, the ultimate billionaires sock-puppet.

 

[Bazzer]

New day, new tariff threat by Trump. This time a 200% tariff on European wines and alcohols.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...ffs-canada-eu-us-politics-latest-news-updates

 

[Psamathe]

New day, new tariff threat by Trump. This time a 200% tariff on European wines and alcohols.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...ffs-canada-eu-us-politics-latest-news-updates

But from Trump's perspective it's all working, achieving what he wants - everybody across the world talking about nothing other than Trump, keeping him the focus of world attention.

I suspect Trump's biggest worry is that the world will find something or somebody else to talk about and focus their attention on.

eg if he just said 25% tariffs on Canada and they happened lots of attention on Trump for a few days then it would fade as something else takes over the headlines. But 25% tariffs on Canada and a few days later "paused" and the pause restarts focus on Trump and what he'll do next. Then a bit later 25% tariffs on Canada back on and he's headline news again, world talking about Trump.

Start "maybe tariffs on European wines" and he's news despite nothing having actually happened. Then maybe in a few days we'll get 50% tariffs on European wines and he's news again, then paused and he's news again, then back on and he's news again, then 50% and he's news again .....

Ian

 

[matticus]

Start "maybe tariffs on European wines" and he's news despite nothing having actually happened. Then maybe in a few days we'll get 50% tariffs on European wines and he's news again, then paused and he's news again, then back on and he's news again, then 50% and he's news again .....

See also: "maybe we should all inject bleach to kill the COVID"

 

[Pinno718]

So you're saying 77 million people are idiots. You've got a lot of explaining to do 😁

Yep.

What's there to explain? 77m people blinded by the paranoia of 'lefties', WOKE's, Marxism, the enemy within - convinced by the sycophantic and the liars. Pure lies. 'Truth social' is anything but.

On Fox news (the GOP bugle) some senator tw@t said that Mexican drug cartels were killing babies in Canada! Bollox, What utter bollox.
Hegseth said that Britain was having a sex grooming gang crisis (or words tot hat effec)t and blaming the current govt. for not holding a public enquiry!! We had a public enquiry. An enquiry pushed by the Labour opposition whilst the Conservative govt. was in power. The Conservative govt. did not implement one recommendation from that enquiry/ Hegseth is talking shyte, utter shyte. He was the laughing stock of the whole of Europe after his Munich speech.

Trump hasn't built much Mexican border wall has he?
Trump was going to end the war in Ukraine in 24 hrs.
Trump was going to bring down the cost of living in the same time period.
There has only been 40lbs of Fentanyl seized on the Canadian border.
Canadians do not want to be the 51st state.
All the tariff talk os rattling the stock markets.

As the Mexican president said (listen to her, she is states person like and articulate): The US has the drugs problem, not Mexico. The gang violence in Mexico is a direct result of the demand for illegal substances in the US. Your country has a drugs problem.

If the decline in living standards continues* as predicted as a result of the downturn in the US economy CAUSED BT TRUMP, there will be an even bigger drugs problem. Who are Reps going to blame then?!

*Food banks are busy in the US. The richest nation in the world and you have food banks... farq me.

 

[icowden]

According to common United States meanings of conservative and liberal, libertarianism in the United States has been described as conservative on economic issues (economic liberalism and fiscal conservatism) and liberal on personal freedom (civil libertarianism and cultural liberalism).

And is now woefully out of date. It is no longer liberal on personal freedom, has not been for some time and is becoming less so.

 

[Psamathe]

See also: "maybe we should all inject bleach to kill the COVID"

I still can't get my head around that one. Nobody can be stupid enough to suggest that yet he did. Was it just he didn't like the speaker getting the attention so he said the first thing that came into his head just to get audience attention back to himself? And if it's the first thing that came into his head it kind of says a lot about the stupidity circulating in his head. Or is he really that stupid (hard to believe)? Or ...

Ian

 

[matticus]

I still can't get my head around that one. Nobody can be stupid enough to suggest that yet he did. Was it just he didn't like the speaker getting the attention so he said the first thing that came into his head just to get audience attention back to himself? And if it's the first thing that came into his head it kind of says a lot about the stupidity circulating in his head. Or is he really that stupid (hard to believe)? Or ...

I know!!!

 

[All uphill]

Why is the flag the wrong way around?

Many people are more eloquent than me. I used to be more so where professional practice required it. Now I just dash stuff off without working at it. One thing never changes though, my honesty. I prize eloquence in others, but honesty in myself. When I make an error, I fess up. Some others write hundreds of posts trying to justify two opposite expressed views at the same time. Inevitably they get exposed as liars.
I'd rather be thought an occasional idiot than a liar.

While I was no fan of Thatcher, I was asked the question when did she lie? I was stumped for an answer where there was strong evidence. Did she lie about the sinking of the Belgrano. I was never sure. All I'm saying is that I can hold a certain amount of respect for people with different views up until the point that they lie.

I don't happen to think in your own case that you are aware that you are lying. You are just a useful idiot recruited to the causes of the biggest known liars the world has known. Which is why I often feel like shaking sense into you without meaning you actual harm.

But you are like my Ultra Maga example in the short clip I posted earlier. You probably believe that drag acts kill twice as many Americans each year as gun related deaths, and then extrapolate that to the UK by population numbers even though gun related deaths rates are relatively low (edit: in the UK).

Years ago I was taught that frequent liars say what they would like to be true, what feels 'right' at a particular moment.

Because the belief in what they say is missing, and unimportant, they are free to change their story every day.

The question to ask them is, "Do you believe what you have just said?"
Many will hesitate as they recognise they don't actually believe what they are saying.

So Andy, do you believe everything you post, or does it just entertain you to wind up people who actually care about others?

 

[yello]

Nobody can be stupid enough to suggest that yet he did.

I remember the look of those around him when he said it.

 

[AndyRM]

I remember the look of those around him when he said it.

Who could forget? It was a proper horror show...

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ah-birx-trump-disinfectant-rant-b2066036.html

 

[Bazzer]

As the Mexican president said (listen to her, she is states person like and articulate): The US has the drugs problem, not Mexico. The gang violence in Mexico is a direct result of the demand for illegal substances in the US. Your country has a drugs problem.

If the decline in living standards continues* as predicted as a result of the downturn in the US economy CAUSED BT TRUMP, there will be an even bigger drugs problem. Who are Reps going to blame then?!

*Food banks are busy in the US. The richest nation in the world and you have food banks... farq me.

He is a MAGA supporter living in this country.

 

[Pblakeney]

Well, that didn't last long. Much like most of the Dumpster's great ideas.
"Immigration officials have reportedly removed all migrants being held at Guantanamo Bay and returned them to the US, just weeks after sending the first batch to the US military base in Cuba."