Reform, and the death of the Tory Party
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monkers
Shaman
I do observe how you are addicted to truth aversion. Instead of pandering to populism and reading endless conspiracy theory, you could instead just use AI to find the truth and use it with an open mind. In this way you avoid bias and try to become the best version of you, while all the time use the saved time to the benefit yourself or others. Accordingly, here's a useful critique without relying using the Daily Express as self-gratification fodder ...
Nigel Farage has been speaking at a press conference in London about what he has framed as “lawless Britain”. Here are some of the highlights of the conference, which you can watch at the top of the blog. The Reform leader did not cite specific evidence or data to back up many of his claims:
- He claims successive home secretaries have based claims that crimes in England and Wales are falling on “completely false data”. He says if you look at police recorded crimes there are “significant” rises in crime, particularly those against the person.
- Farage says we are facing “nothing short of societal collapse” in many parts of the country, with “people scared to go out to the shops” and to “let their kids out”.
- He says criminals and law-abiding citizens respect police less than they used to.
- He says low level offences – like phone snatching and shop lifting – are rife in London and not being prosecuted.
- Most people don’t even bother calling the police to report a crime because they know officers are unlikely to take any action, Farage said.
- Farage said that “nobody in London understands how close we are to civil disobedience” in Britain.
- He said that offenders convicted of more than three serious crimes should be “on a course towards life imprisonment”.
- Reform would put more knife arches in train stations and other transport hubs to clamp down on crime, Farage suggested.
- He said that every shoplifting offence would be prosecuted and every mobile phone theft investigated if Reform got into government at the next election.
- Farage indicated that the party would force Reform UK councils to take new prisons in their areas as part of the party’s plans to tackle crime.
🔥 Farage’s Narrative vs 📊 Asylum System Reality
| Farage’s Rhetoric | Empirical Reality |
|---|---|
| "Societal collapse" due to rising crime and civic breakdown | Crime rates in many areas have plateaued or fallen; poverty, not asylum, drives despair |
| “Riots near asylum hotels” signal lawlessness | Most unrest near asylum sites is incited by far-right agitators, not asylum seekers |
| Asylum seekers “get everything for free” | Many live in overcrowded hotels with limited support, unable to work or integrate |
| “Nobody understands how close we are to civil disobedience” | Public frustration is real—but it's fueled by economic hardship, not asylum volumes |
| Offenders should face life sentences after three serious crimes | Over 70% of imprisoned foreign nationals are held for non-violent offences |
| Reform UK would eliminate shoplifting and phone theft | Policing levels and court resources make zero-tolerance impractical and expensive |
🧱 Structural and Systemic Truths About the UK Asylum System
🕰️ Processing Delays
- Average wait time: 1–3 years for an initial decision
- Backlog: 78,745 cases pending as of spring 2025
- Appeals backlog: Over 50,000 cases, many unresolved for months or years
💰 Costs and Accommodation
- Annual cost: £5.4 billion, driven largely by overpriced hotel contracts
- Hotel use: £145 per person, per night vs £14 for dispersal housing
- System failure: Not due to asylum seekers—but due to poor planning, outsourcing, and delay
⚠️ Administrative Fragility
- Productivity has declined, despite increased hiring
- Outdated IT infrastructure and poor training exacerbate bottlenecks
- No clear timeline for full backlog clearance or reform implementation
👁️ Misplaced Blame
- Rising public anger correlates with economic precarity, not asylum volume
- Farage’s framing skips over his own role in austerity, deregulation, and Brexit-driven fiscal contraction
- Billionaire wealth surged while ordinary people’s incomes stagnated—yet systemic poverty remains unaddressed
I will suggest an ironic solution, lock up the violent protesters on the street, but allow them to ''buy'' themselves out of prison on the first three occasions. That will lead to a frenzy of crowd funding to get them out with all that lovely dosh paying down the £5.4 billion shortfall, with the added benefit of getting violent thugs and morons off our streets. Reverse psychology works brilliantly to reduce crime rates. Any surplus can be used on more infrastructure to house and process asylum seekers, and prisons to keep the more persistent morons in.
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C R
Guru
It.Does.Not.Care, don't waste your breath.
C R
Guru
Do you think it actually reads anything?
CXRAndy
Legendary Member
monkers
Shaman
Turns out ‘taking back control’ meant losing control of £92 billion in annual economic output—just to wave blue passports at border guards while supermarket shelves sulked and investment fled. But chin up, Brexiteers: your sacrifice didn’t go unnoticed. It’s just that billionaires banked the dividends.
Maybe your finger is pointing the wrong way. MAGA are rumbling Trump. Maybe you shouldn't be such a Farage fanboy! Mirrors are available at a range of outlets - if you can still afford one?
CXRAndy
Legendary Member
Xipe Totec
Something nasty in the woodshed
monkers
Shaman
Oh I very much did. It doesn't paint your beliefs in a good light my little Faragette. The man created much of economic loss and social division wants us to believe that much of the state of the country is not down to him and his succulents. Own it!
92 billion in lost output and people are not forgetting. Combine this with fiscal rules and there isn't the money tackle the asylum problem. Death loop economics.
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