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Psamathe

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To me this suggests Trump's tariffs are nothing to do with trade but about bullying and blackmail (BBC Report) China tariffs may be cut to seal TikTok sale, Trump says

If tariffs are about reciprocal trade tariffs and trade balances what has a Tik-Tok sale got to do with goods trade balances or import tariffs? Ans: It's about Trump getting what he wants - give him what he wants (attention, Tik-Tok, etc.) then he'll stop punishing you. Bullying.

Ian
 

Xipe Totec

Something nasty in the woodshed
That's your assumption, they could have easily wanted to leave but didn't get the chance to vote

"Didn't get the chance"? How is that supposed to work?

And why do you fantasise that they were all thwarted leavers? It's a lot more reasonable & rational to assume that those who didn't vote didn't care enough to want to change anything. Or - like many - they thought remaining was a foregone conclusion.
 

Blazing Saddles

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That's your assumption, they could have easily wanted to leave but didn't get the chance to vote

How is easy for over a quarter of the population not have a chance to vote?

The assumption at the time was that the UK would remain in the EU, by a relatively comfortable margin.
Complacency is a far more believable reason for all those non-voters.
 
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BoldonLad

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To me this suggests Trump's tariffs are nothing to do with trade but about bullying and blackmail (BBC Report) China tariffs may be cut to seal TikTok sale, Trump says

If tariffs are about reciprocal trade tariffs and trade balances what has a Tik-Tok sale got to do with goods trade balances or import tariffs? Ans: It's about Trump getting what he wants - give him what he wants (attention, Tik-Tok, etc.) then he'll stop punishing you. Bullying.

Ian

One "theory" I have chanced upon, on the Internet, is that it is all about Data. ie His "Tech billionaire handlers" want to ensure the keep access to the data they have, and, if possible, extend the range of data they have. Tariffs are a means to bully/blackmail "difficult" Governments into relaxing data protection laws and/or to gain access to Government held data. Acquiring TikTok would mean acquiring yet more data.

The more data the Tech Billionaires have, they more they can control us plebs, and, even control Government.

Personally, I am not sure "they" are that clever, but........ ;)
 

Pblakeney

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I’m confused by this one. (One of many).

“Meanwhile, Trump publishes a flurry of posts on his Truth Social account, with his latest one hitting back at China's move to slap retaliatory tariffs on the US.
"China played it wrong, they panicked," Trump says. "The one thing they cannot afford to do!"”

I can imagine China being fine without US business. US without China business less so.
 
I’m confused by this one. (One of many).

“Meanwhile, Trump publishes a flurry of posts on his Truth Social account, with his latest one hitting back at China's move to slap retaliatory tariffs on the US.
"China played it wrong, they panicked," Trump says. "The one thing they cannot afford to do!"”

I can imagine China being fine without US business. US without China business less so.

What did he expect?
And who is panicking?
 

briantrumpet

Regular
I’m confused by this one. (One of many).

“Meanwhile, Trump publishes a flurry of posts on his Truth Social account, with his latest one hitting back at China's move to slap retaliatory tariffs on the US.
"China played it wrong, they panicked," Trump says. "The one thing they cannot afford to do!"”

I can imagine China being fine without US business. US without China business less so.

In his narcissistic sociopathic head, he can't compute that a nation he was intending to frighten into submission has just gone "So what?"

If Trump/US doesn't see how they are 'self isolating', while the rest of the world starts to organise itself without the US as a central player, then they are so screwed. They'll end up like Russia in more ways than one.
 
That's your assumption, they could have easily wanted to leave but didn't get the chance to vote
No, you are getting confused because of the flagrant gerrymandering that goes on in the US and forms the keystone of Republican policy.

Our politicians lie through their teeth, but we do tend to let people vote based on those lies. It's just that a lot of people can't be arsed.
 
In his narcissistic sociopathic head, he can't compute that a nation he was intending to frighten into submission has just gone "So what?"

If Trump/US doesn't see how they are 'self isolating', while the rest of the world starts to organise itself without the US as a central player, then they are so screwed. They'll end up like Russia in more ways than one.

It is a bit optimistic to suggest that the RoW will just move on from the US. However this sort of nonsense will increase, rather than decrease, the moves towards other reserve currencies and other markets that are more stable.
 
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Pblakeney

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It is a bit optimistic to suggest that the RoW will just move on from the US. However this sort of nonsense will increase, rather than decrease, the moves towards other reserve currencies and other markets that are more stable.

It’s just like schoolchildren. They fall out with their “besties”, find a new “bestie” and move on. Donald may well find himself without any friends. Well, apart from the lapdog UK.
 

briantrumpet

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It is a bit optimistic to suggest that the RoW will just move on from the US. However this sort of nonsense will increase, rather than decrease, the moves towards other reserve currencies and other markets that are more stable.

Yeah, sure, not going to happen overnight, but it'll accelerate the drift massively, not least with the axing of USAid and China's Silk Road starting to fill that void of soft power.
 

briantrumpet

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5D chess (When did 4d chess disappear, and when will deflation mean it has to be "6D chess?)

This apparently is genuine. Don't remember it being part of his campaign.

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