Donald I, emperor of the world.

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the snail

the snail

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Psamathe said:
Don't know how many times I have to repeat this but he said that the exporters will be paying and with tariffs exporters don't pay, importers do ... so he wasn't talking about tariffs. Said it several times now. Can't think of a more straightforward way to say it, exporters don't pay tariffs and Trump was talking about them paying so he must have been talking about something else.

Ian
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I think you are making the mistake of assuming Trump understands what he is talking about - it's easy to underestimate just how stupid he is. He has been banging on about tariffs for years, and it's clear that he thinks that China will be paying the tariffs, it's basically free money, which will allow him to abolish income tax. It seems surprising that no one has thought of doing this before, but obviously it takes a bigly genius like trump to come up with these things, helped by his advisor with an imaginary expert to help him.
 
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Pblakeney

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the snail said:
I think you are making the mistake of assuming Trump understands what he is talking about - it's easy to underestimate just how stupid he is. He has been banging on about tariffs for years, and it's clear that he thinks that China will be paying the tariffs, it's basically free money, which will allow him to abolish income tax. It seems surprising that no one has thought of doing this before, but obviously it takes a bigly genius like trump to come up with these things, helped by his advisor with an imaginary expert to help him.
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If only there was a precedent that someone could explain to Trump. If only there was someone...

"President Wilson achieved this in the Federal Reserve Act of 1913. Working with the bullish Senator Aldrich and former presidential candidate William Jennings Bryan, he perfected a way to centralize the banking system to allow Congress to closely allocate paper money production.[91]

The Federal Reserve Act, with the Sixteenth Amendment of the Constitution, would create a trend of new forms of government funding. The Democrats lowered the tariff in 1913 but the economic dislocations of the First World War made it irrelevant. When the Republicans returned to power in 1921 they again imposed a protective tariff. They raised it again with the Smoot–Hawley Tariff Act of 1930 to meet the Great Depression in the United States. But that made the depression worse. This time it backfired, as Canada, Britain, Germany, France and other industrial countries retaliated with their own tariffs and special, bilateral trade deals. American imports and exports both went into a tailspin."
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Pblakeney

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The BBC finally coming round to my point of view.

"Ukraine minerals deal may not buy peace after Trump threat"
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"Despite the US and Ukraine stepping closer to this mineral deal, the Trump administration's threat leaves it looking more like a business venture.
It also poses greater questions on whether Washington cares who controls Ukraine in the long term, as long as US commercial interests are protected."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy5rqvqg36qo
 
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Pblakeney

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briantrumpet said:
...and his narcissism.

I actually wondered if they could have national mass laugh-ins at him, as his ego is soooo fragile. Coup by comedy.
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I suspect that his greed trumps his narcissism given that he doesn't mind people being angry at him.
Both can be true though, and at an extreme level. 😉
 
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Psamathe

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Pblakeney said:
I suspect that his greed trumps his narcissism given that he doesn't mind people being angry at him.
Both can be true though, and at an extreme level. 😉
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A condition known as "Malignant Narcissism" a solipsistic form of narcissism sometimes just called solipsist. Afflicted just has to be the centre of attention, it doesn't have to be positive attention. Focus of everybody is the only important thing not being admired.

Ian
 
secretsqirrel

secretsqirrel

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Psamathe said:
A condition known as "Malignant Narcissism" a solipsistic form of narcissism sometimes just called solipsist. Afflicted just has to be the centre of attention, it doesn't have to be positive attention. Focus of everybody is the only important thing not being admired.

Ian
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So on this state visit he will prefer protests and angry mobs to everyone going about their business as normal.
Got it ;)
 
briantrumpet

briantrumpet

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Psamathe said:
A condition known as "Malignant Narcissism" a solipsistic form of narcissism sometimes just called solipsist. Afflicted just has to be the centre of attention, it doesn't have to be positive attention. Focus of everybody is the only important thing not being admired.

Ian
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But we know he does hate being ridiculed: see the grudge he's held again Obama for the roasting in the WH Correspondents' Dinner. Well, it might also be because Obama isn't white that Trump hates him quite so much.
 
briantrumpet

briantrumpet

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I think Johnson was similar to Trump (if less extreme) and wanted everyone to love him, which is why he constantly put off the hard decisions during the pandemic until it was two weeks too late.
 
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Pblakeney

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briantrumpet said:
I think Johnson was similar to Trump (if less extreme) and wanted everyone to love him, which is why he constantly put off the hard decisions during the pandemic until it was two weeks too late.
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Parallels with Trump walking away from Ukraine because solving it is proving tricky? Just wants the easy fix and move on.
Who knew war wasn't something you could buy your way out of?
 
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