CXRAndy
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Whatever you may think of them, they voted for Trump
Donald I, emperor of the world.
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Whatever you may think of them, they voted for Trump
The majority view on NCAP (like Cakestop before it) isn't necessarily representative of the majority view of the general public, and neither is someone a "centrist" just because they think they are. So far as I can make out, being a centrist only means that you hold a set of opinions that are broadly acceptable in the mainstream at a given moment in time anyway- so like the idea that doctors could give children puberty blockers that changed them irreversibly without their parents consent and then cutting off their breasts and sex organs was an acceptable opinion.........
I guess if you're a well remunerated professional type with a pension and possibly a second home abroad (of the type that seems to be well represented on cycling forums) then it's easy to imagine that anyone who doesn't share your world view must be mentally ill, but purlease!!!!!!!! Stevo might like to wind up the Libs a bit but FFS some of you need to get a sense of proportion.
Stevo 666
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Should we call you the 'Scotbot'? 🙂
Scotchbot because Scotch is bound to really annoy him
Stevo 666
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Sweatbot?
Pinno718
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He's a troll. If his raison d'etre is to wind people up, then you've just confirmed it.
Who rattled your cage anyway? Stevo? He needs a pal obviously.
Have you got anything to add to this thread?
My 'centrist' view is not what you think. I simply see the relentless swing from left to right in govt. and I get tired of left vs right. The pendulum swings and nothing really changes. Some socialist based policies I do not agree with, some I do. Some Tory's speak sensibly, not many but some do. So how else do I describe my political bent? I don't have a holiday home.
Tell your pal to answer questions instead of chucking them back. Ask him to respond to the report of the woman detained in a deportation detention centre in the US who gave birth to a still born baby whilst her feet were shackled and she got no medical help. But Schmidt can't. I don't know of a decent human being who would not react to that when asked for an opinion. It's an inexplicable wall that I can only put down to some autistic trait or he's just a cold blooded reptile or his reason for commenting in a thread (to which he has had very little input) is questionable. Either way, you would react wouldn't you, if you were normal?
If that incident does not evoke something, then you need help. So do not condescend me and tell me and others we need a 'sense of proportion'. It's not Stevo's fault that this woman was detained and lost her baby but he hasn't reacted at all to it and I put it to him twice as a lead into the issues we have covered in his absence. That I find, an inexplicable detachment. This effectively is the 3rd time (by proxy).
https://nashvillebanner.com/2025/05/27/iris-monterroso-pregnancy-loss
Pinno718
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From the above:
“They didn’t give me medical attention — nowhere. Not in Louisiana, not in Alabama. I was in Alabama too, sleeping on the floor,” she said during a call from Richwood on May 7.
When Monterroso-Lemus was sent to Richwood, she was four to five months pregnant, according to her medical records. She said she didn’t feel she was receiving the proper care.
Prior to her detention, according to medical records, she received an ultrasound in February after going to the doctor for pelvic pain. Doctors at that time prescribed Tylenol and told her to return if she experienced bleeding.
Once in Louisiana, she said she often felt she was “starving,” and that she wasn’t getting the nutrients she needed, adding that the food was so poor that many detainees would throw it away rather than eat it. She described spaghetti served with tube-shaped ground beef and even cockroaches. She also said she experienced mistreatment and mocking from the guards.
Monterroso-Lemus said she repeatedly asked for an ultrasound to make sure her pregnancy was healthy, but that the staff only monitored her blood pressure and tested her urine.
“I told them to just send me back to Guatemala because I was pregnant and wasn’t getting the medical attention I needed,” she said. “I called Immigration, ICE, I called and sent texts, but still, nothing. They told me I had to wait for my flight. Can you imagine?”
Over time, she began to feel that stress was taking a toll on her health.
“There’s so much pressure in jail,” she said. “I started suffering from insomnia, from anxiety. Then I felt like I was having a stroke, and they still didn’t give me a medical exam.”
She said she was given 12 pills to take daily, though the Banner was unable to independently verify this. She took them for two days before stopping, convinced something was wrong. A few days later, she began pleading for help.
“I begged the doctors,” she said. “I told them, ‘Please, take me to the hospital. I don’t feel well. I’m having contractions.’”
But she said they dismissed her concerns, telling her the pain was normal because the baby was growing.
“I told them it wasn’t normal,” she said. As a mother of six, she is intimately familiar with the pains of pregnancy.
Then, on April 29, she was admitted to Ochsner LSU Health – Monroe Medical Center, a labor and delivery hospital. The physician’s note states that Monterroso-Lemus complained of experiencing no fetal movement, lower abdominal pain and an increase in vaginal discharge for three days before she was hospitalized.
“She states she told the doctor where she is at that this pregnancy didn’t feel right a couple days ago, but nothing was done,” the report reads.
That day she went through spontaneous vaginal delivery after experiencing intrauterine fetal death. The clinical notes state that the pregnancy was “complicated by no PNC,” meaning she had received no prenatal care. She gave birth under the constant watch of two federal guards by her bedside, as the clinical notes confirm.
“When I was delivering my baby, they didn’t even give me a little privacy,” she said. “Imagine, [a guard] was sitting right there, watching me day and night. One time, they even shackled my feet because they thought I might escape. Like I was some kind of criminal. I told them, ‘What you’re doing to me isn’t right.’”
She said she wasn’t allowed to call her partner during her hospitalization, so for two days after, she cried alone.
[and the MAGA's are pro-lifers?!]
“They didn’t give me medical attention — nowhere. Not in Louisiana, not in Alabama. I was in Alabama too, sleeping on the floor,” she said during a call from Richwood on May 7.
When Monterroso-Lemus was sent to Richwood, she was four to five months pregnant, according to her medical records. She said she didn’t feel she was receiving the proper care.
Prior to her detention, according to medical records, she received an ultrasound in February after going to the doctor for pelvic pain. Doctors at that time prescribed Tylenol and told her to return if she experienced bleeding.
Once in Louisiana, she said she often felt she was “starving,” and that she wasn’t getting the nutrients she needed, adding that the food was so poor that many detainees would throw it away rather than eat it. She described spaghetti served with tube-shaped ground beef and even cockroaches. She also said she experienced mistreatment and mocking from the guards.
Monterroso-Lemus said she repeatedly asked for an ultrasound to make sure her pregnancy was healthy, but that the staff only monitored her blood pressure and tested her urine.
“I told them to just send me back to Guatemala because I was pregnant and wasn’t getting the medical attention I needed,” she said. “I called Immigration, ICE, I called and sent texts, but still, nothing. They told me I had to wait for my flight. Can you imagine?”
Over time, she began to feel that stress was taking a toll on her health.
“There’s so much pressure in jail,” she said. “I started suffering from insomnia, from anxiety. Then I felt like I was having a stroke, and they still didn’t give me a medical exam.”
She said she was given 12 pills to take daily, though the Banner was unable to independently verify this. She took them for two days before stopping, convinced something was wrong. A few days later, she began pleading for help.
“I begged the doctors,” she said. “I told them, ‘Please, take me to the hospital. I don’t feel well. I’m having contractions.’”
But she said they dismissed her concerns, telling her the pain was normal because the baby was growing.
“I told them it wasn’t normal,” she said. As a mother of six, she is intimately familiar with the pains of pregnancy.
Then, on April 29, she was admitted to Ochsner LSU Health – Monroe Medical Center, a labor and delivery hospital. The physician’s note states that Monterroso-Lemus complained of experiencing no fetal movement, lower abdominal pain and an increase in vaginal discharge for three days before she was hospitalized.
“She states she told the doctor where she is at that this pregnancy didn’t feel right a couple days ago, but nothing was done,” the report reads.
That day she went through spontaneous vaginal delivery after experiencing intrauterine fetal death. The clinical notes state that the pregnancy was “complicated by no PNC,” meaning she had received no prenatal care. She gave birth under the constant watch of two federal guards by her bedside, as the clinical notes confirm.
“When I was delivering my baby, they didn’t even give me a little privacy,” she said. “Imagine, [a guard] was sitting right there, watching me day and night. One time, they even shackled my feet because they thought I might escape. Like I was some kind of criminal. I told them, ‘What you’re doing to me isn’t right.’”
She said she wasn’t allowed to call her partner during her hospitalization, so for two days after, she cried alone.
[and the MAGA's are pro-lifers?!]
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