Donald I, emperor of the world.

[BoldonLad]

Only fücking morons with an IQ that makes pigshit appear MENSA-eligible would conclude that their very own assertion that words have consequences is somehow a celebration of death.

The consequences of Saint Charlie's words would appear to be that someone shot him in the neck because of them. No-one's celebrating that, you dismally stupid cünt.

Well, if the shooters intention was to silence him, it failed, at least, in the short term. I had never heard of him, at the last gathering of my drinking pals, none of them had ever heard of him, now, everybody knows who he was, and, is being exposed to his opinions.

Maybe it was an extreme publicity stunt?

 

[BoldonLad]

Make America Grovel Again. How long before Trump says something along the lines of "“From now the dollar abroad is worth 14% or so less in terms of other currencies. It does not mean, of course, that the dollar here in America, in your pocket or purse or in your bank, has been devalued. What it does mean is that we shall now be able to sell more goods abroad on a competitive basis.”

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Isn’t that just a rejig of Harold’s pound in your pocket speech?

 

[AndyRM]

Well, if the shooters intention was to silence him, it failed, at least, in the short term. I had never heard of him, at the last gathering of my drinking pals, none of them had ever heard of him, now, everybody knows who he was, and, is being exposed to his opinions.

Maybe it was an extreme publicity stunt?

That's some beautifully dark idle speculation for a Monday morning which conjures up all kinds of weird and wonderful ritualistic imagery for me.

Chapeau, sir.

 

[Pinno718]

Isn’t that just a rejig of Harold’s pound in your pocket speech?

Whilst this is true, the dollar has been the international currency to which oil and many commodities are priced at.
Interestingly not metal - that's the LME: London Metal Exchange.

My photo journalist friend covered the Russian withdrawal from Afghanistan and the currency that would get you places/info was the dollar. Exchanges of local currency to dollar happened in back alleys.
In many 3rd world countries, the dollar is preferred cash as domestic currencies are volatile.

 

[briantrumpet]

Isn’t that just a rejig of Harold’s pound in your pocket speech?

Well spotted.

 

[BoldonLad]

That's some beautifully dark idle speculation for a Monday morning which conjures up all kinds of weird and wonderful ritualistic imagery for me.

Chapeau, sir.

You are welcome 😊

 

[BoldonLad]

Whilst this is true, the dollar has been the international currency to which oil and many commodities are priced at.
Interestingly not metal - that's the LME: London Metal Exchange.

My photo journalist friend covered the Russian withdrawal from Afghanistan and the currency that would get you places/info was the dollar. Exchanges of local currency to dollar happened in back alleys.
In many 3rd world countries, the dollar is preferred cash as domestic currencies are volatile.

Not only 3rd world countries, also in so called super powers, in my experience.

 

[CXRAndy]

Only fücking morons with an IQ that makes pigshit appear MENSA-eligible would conclude that their very own assertion that words have consequences is somehow a celebration of death.

The consequences of Saint Charlie's words would appear to be that someone shot him in the neck because of them. No-one's celebrating that, you dismally stupid cünt.

Calm down 🐅

 

[midlandsgrimpeur]

It's hardly as if constantly arguing against our resident magabot here is going to change his mind or anyone else's, and if anything, it's only going to further entrench division rather than to find points of agreement between different points of view, which is the only way eventually politics can get away from the dire state it's in at the moment.

The issue with this is how do we reach consensus? If you are saying minds cannot be changed but we need to find points of agreement, how do we do that? Are we saying scrap off any kind of debate or challenge with those with whom we cannot find common ground? If so, who are we seeking to find points of agreement with? Those who may be centre right or traditional Conservatives but far from MAGA/Reform are probably already likely to hold consensus views on certain issues.

All of the above is not being said in an adversarial tone by the way BT, I am genuinely interested in people's views. I agree absolutely that we need to reach points of agreement, I am just not sure who the 'we' is these days and how we get there!

 

[briantrumpet]

The issue with this is how do we reach consensus? If you are saying minds cannot be changed but we need to find points of agreement, how do we do that? Are we saying scrap off any kind of debate or challenge with those with whom we cannot find common ground? If so, who are we seeking to find points of agreement with? Those who may be centre right or traditional Conservatives but far from MAGA/Reform are probably already likely to hold consensus views on certain issues.

All of the above is not being said in an adversarial tone by the way BT, I am genuinely interested in people's views. I agree absolutely that we need to reach points of agreement, I am just not sure who the 'we' is these days and how we get there!

I'll argue with those who do it in good faith, even if points of agreement are unlikely. But if someone is going to repeatedly spout demonstrable lies on a forum, it's not in good faith; it's not even just attention seeking, it's a deliberate ploy to get everyone onto their lawn and to undermine rational debate.

 

[briantrumpet]

 

[icowden]

In other news, this is not satire.
https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/09/17...monization-president-trump-his-supporters-and

DHS Calls for Media and Far Left to Stop the Demonization of President Trump, His Supporters, and DHS Law Enforcement​

Release Date: September 17, 2025

This hateful rhetoric is contributing to political violence in our country and a more than 1000% increase in assaults against our brave ICE law enforcement
WASHINGTON – Following the evil act of political violence witnessed in the country last week and two attempts to resist arrest resulting in severe injuries of ICE law enforcement officers—one being drug by a car and another hit by a car—DHS is calling on the media, leftist groups, and sanctuary politicians to end their demonizing DHS law enforcement. This hateful rhetoric is inspiring political violence in our country and assaults against our brave DHS law enforcement.
“Following the evil act of political violence in the country this week and two brutal assaults on our brave ICE law enforcement last week, we are once again calling on the media and the far left to stop the hateful rhetoric directed at President Trump, those who support him, and our brave DHS law enforcement,” said Assistant Secretary Tricia McLaughlin. “This demonization is inspiring violence across the country. Our ICE officers are facing a more than 1000% increase in assaults against them. We have to turn down the temperature before someone else is killed. This violence must end.”

 

[icowden]

Whereas this is satire

https://bsky.app/profile/davidho.bsky.social/post/3lzb6kehegs2v

 

[icowden]

And this is just Trump calling for the Airbase to be returned to the RUSSIANS as he failed history:

In the 1950s, Bagram Airfield was originally built by the Soviet Union[11] during the early period of the Cold War, at a time when the United States and the neighboring Soviet Union were spreading political influence in Afghanistan. While the United States was focusing on Afghanistan, the Soviets were strengthening ties with Cuba. In 1959, a year after Afghan Prime Minister Daud Khan toured the United States, U.S. President Dwight Eisenhower landed at Bagram Airfield where he was greeted by King Zahir Shah and Daud Khan among other Afghan officials.[12][13]

In 1976, the original runway 3,000-metre long (10,000 ft), was built. The airport at Bagram was maintained by the Afghan Air Force (AAF) with some support from the United States. During the 1980s Soviet–Afghan War, it played a key role, serving as a hub for the Limited Contingent of Soviet Forces in Afghanistan operations and a base for its troops and supplies. Bagram was also the initial staging point for the invading Soviet forces at the beginning of the conflict, with elements of two Soviet Airborne Troops' divisions being deployed there. Aircraft based at Bagram, including the 368th Assault Aviation Regiment flying Su-25s, provided close air support for Soviet and Afghan troops in the field. The 368th Assault Aviation Regiment was stationed at Bagram from October 1986 to November 1987.[14]

 

[Psamathe]

I would respectfully disagree, I think we need to push back against all the lies and misinformation. It may not change their minds but it let's them know that there is constant opposition. The moment the opposition stops it will become even worse and more persistent. I am referring to all MAGA muck spreaders by the way, not just our resident MAGA hat wearer.

With regard to our local MUGa, the trouble is in "pushing back" you are giving it greater prominence as well as increasing the (internet wide) search engine prominence for the twaddle from Twitter it's echoing.

Pushing back in worthwhile but only where it's worthwhile. Best way to "push back" against our local MUGa is to ignore it and it then goes quieter, and its mirrored Twitter content gets more ignored by the likes of Google (and the forum is a better place for everybody else).