Donald I, emperor of the world.
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Bazzer
Über Member
Just another example of the dictator and his projectionism.
Pinno718
Über Member
The odd thing is is that this is generating more bad sentiment towards Trump than the recent 23k emails and what lies therein.
However, his claim that he severed ties with Epstein long ago and that he kicked Epstein out of 'the club' hasn't gone unnoticed. He's a liar. Epstein was never in the club and his contact with Trump is as late as 2019.
Psamathe
Guru
Re: Epstein E-Mails
I have no specific knowledge and just thoughts NOT fact
One of the challenges through the ongoing revelations seems to be the reliability of the accounts from alleged perpetrators and "friends". Can we form any valid view given how many have a track record for blatant lies, unsupported conjecture and downright fantasy.
eg many reports seem to be assuming that the Epstein e-mails represent "truth" but it also sounds like after his conviction maybe he was desperately trying to bolster his own ego. Clearly some did not abandon him but I do wonder about taking anything and everything in Epstein's e-mails as "fact" just as defence from those involved will likely be any twaddle to deflect attention away from themselves.
Those perpetrators have a track record of lies, deception, mistruth, etc. to pursue their own interests.
I have no specific knowledge and just thoughts NOT fact
One of the challenges through the ongoing revelations seems to be the reliability of the accounts from alleged perpetrators and "friends". Can we form any valid view given how many have a track record for blatant lies, unsupported conjecture and downright fantasy.
eg many reports seem to be assuming that the Epstein e-mails represent "truth" but it also sounds like after his conviction maybe he was desperately trying to bolster his own ego. Clearly some did not abandon him but I do wonder about taking anything and everything in Epstein's e-mails as "fact" just as defence from those involved will likely be any twaddle to deflect attention away from themselves.
Those perpetrators have a track record of lies, deception, mistruth, etc. to pursue their own interests.
Pinno718
Über Member
Although the dates are critical and don't corroborate Trumps BS.
Psamathe
Guru
I agree. Not suggesting we ignore the e-mails but recognise that they are all spinning their lies to further their best interests and extracting truth from defensive lies is difficult and personally I find my views of the individuals make it too easy to take some revelations at face value.
CXRAndy
Shaman
Sounds like a great idea, get everyone claiming to reapply - audit the applications to see if you genuinely need benefits
View: https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/1989336997484237035?t=sgwYN5Ave21fSM58JlfuIw&s=19
View: https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/1989336997484237035?t=sgwYN5Ave21fSM58JlfuIw&s=19
First Aspect
Veteran
I predict the admin costs will exceed the level of fraud they uncover. But at least it will cause some genuine hardship in the meantime, which is a silver lining.
CXRAndy
Shaman
Admin costs would be high initially, but sorting the fraud and abuse would aid those who truly need it.
Iowa has just announced snap stamps will not be allowed to buy sugary foods, drink, crisps etc
Only good quality food with food stamps. USA certainly has an epidemic of poor health, amongst the poorest
Iowa has just announced snap stamps will not be allowed to buy sugary foods, drink, crisps etc
Only good quality food with food stamps. USA certainly has an epidemic of poor health, amongst the poorest
