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Blazing Saddles

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Haaretz -

If the Iran campaign comes to be seen in the U.S. as a failure, Trump will look for someone to blame. Netanyahu, too, is already looking for someone to shift responsibility onto, as he did after the October 7 massacre. The frequent attacks on Israeli propaganda channels against the IDF chief, and the occasional hints directed at the head of the Mossad, are already laying the groundwork for what comes next if the war ends without further gains, writes Amos Harel

A lack of clarity prevailed in Lebanon on Wednesday, too, as the IDF continued with strikes and renewed evacuation orders. PM Netanyahu said in an English-language statement that the Iran cease-fire "does not include Lebanon" while Pakistan's PM, who helped mediate the truce, said that the cease-fire extends to "everywhere including Lebanon and elsewhere, EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY" – and a source familiar with the matter told Haaretz that Israel was informed accordingly. Trump later told PBS that a truce in Lebanon is not included in the Iran agreement, adding that Israel's strikes in Lebanon are "part of the deal – everyone knows that."

An unnamed source told Tasnim that Iran would withdraw from the cease-fire if Israel continued attacking Lebanon, and a top IRGC commander vowed a "severe" response to the IDF's strikes. The attacks – which the IDF described as its "largest coordinated strike across Lebanon" since the start of the war – killed at least 112 people across the country, the Lebanese Health Ministry said. At the same time, the Israeli military announced on Wednesday that soldier Touvel Yosef Lifshiz was killed the previous day in a clash with armed militants in southern Lebanon.

Hezbollah, for its part, halted fire on northern Israel ‌and on IDF troops ⁠in Lebanon in the ⁠early hours of Wednesday as part of the Iran cease-fire, three Lebanese sources ‌told Reuters. The group later said that it has a right to respond to Israel's attacks. Lebanon's government appeared to have been left in the dark, with a Lebanese official telling Al Jazeera that the country has not been formally updated on the details of the cease-fire as they pertain to Beirut. At the same time, Lebanese authorities urged displaced people not to return south, the Washington Post reported, as many gathered their belongings and began heading back.

That didn’t take long. It’s all NATOs fault.
 

Dorset Boy

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Mr Celine

Senior Member
And the two countries that won't be using oil & gas subject to that surcharge being US & Israel. So we the "Rest of the World" in effect paying reparations for Israel & US's war of choice.

As oil and gas are traded internationally it will affect the price everywhere, just as Trump's war affected the price of gasoline in the US.
 

laurentian

Regular
Mass public manipulation is dead

. . . says the most manipulated person on here . . . gold, absolute gold.
 

Psamathe

Guru
As oil and gas are traded internationally it will affect the price everywhere, just as Trump's war affected the price of gasoline in the US.
Oil price is but are shipping costs included in the internationally traded "oil price"? Tariffs on shipping (like import duties, etc. I'd assumed a separate cost.
 

Mike_P

New Member
Good summation on 5 Live this morning 9f what the clown calls a victory.
Initial aim of destroying nuclear unmet, Iranian government changed and strengthened not destroyed, and straights blocked.
 

Psamathe

Guru
Not Trűmpton but also not worthy of a seperate new thread. hypocrisy yet not even smart enough to notice:
Little does he know that he's actually campaigning for the opposition.
Made me wonder If a couple of years ago Starmer had been campaigning in support of Biden in the US Presidential elections. How would Trūmp have reacted to that?

And to me the obvious reaction highlighted how hypocritical the current US leadership has become.
 
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First Aspect

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Made me wonder If a couple of years ago Starmer had been campaigning in support of Biden in the US Presidential elections. How would Trūmp have reacted to that?

And to me the obvious reaction highlighted how hypocritical the current US leadership has become.

They sort of did, if you remember, and Trump wasn't happy.
 
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