Elon v Trump

[cookiemonster]

So, who'll win? My money's on the Ketamine Kid.

 

[Mad Doug Biker]

Trump, because, well, he's Trump.

 

[CXRAndy]

This is over the BBB where Elon wants to slash the deficit and Trump extend it. Fiscally getting the $2trillion annual interest payment down or even zero would massively help the USA.

I think Trump should reconsider the structure of the bill

 

[briantrumpet]

How long before Trump threatens to shut down X?

 

[C R]

How long before Trump threatens to shut down X?

He's already threatened to cancel Musk's government contracts.

 

[craigwend]

 

[deptfordmarmoset]

So, who'll win? My money's on the Ketamine Kid.

I'm hoping a grown up will enter the room and put a stop to all this.

 

[C R]

I'm hoping a grown up will enter the room and put a stop to all this.

There are no grown ups left.

 

[Pblakeney]

Trump. Musk has the money but that's all while Trump has power and rich backers.

The naturalization process is the steps a person must take to become a citizen of this country when they were not born here. The denaturalization process happens when U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) identifies a problem with your application or identifies behaviors after you become a citizen that should result in the loss of your nationality.

 

[cookiemonster]

Who’s going to get custody of JD Vance?

 

[AndyRM]

I don't see anybody "winning" to be honest. The whole thing is as pathetic as it was inevitable.

 

[Psamathe]

I don't see anybody "winning" to be honest. The whole thing is as pathetic as it was inevitable.

Again highlighting the failure of current western politicians to actually govern society is an aven half-sensible manner (not just US).

Ian

 

[Pross]

Trump. Musk has the money but that's all while Trump has power and rich backers.

The naturalization process is the steps a person must take to become a citizen of this country when they were not born here. The denaturalization process happens when U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) identifies a problem with your application or identifies behaviors after you become a citizen that should result in the loss of your nationality.

Well, he's lost the richest of the backers!

 

[Pross]

Seriously though, whilst I detest Trump he has been elected to the position. If Musk 'wins' it's an even more concerning sign of how teh unelected super rich can manipulate politics. That said if Musk manages to facilitate Trump being successfully impeached and also manages to destroy his own personal fortune that would be perfect.

 

[Psamathe]

One aspect the argument does highlight is how vulnerable Government become when they push ever more services out to private "for profit" companies. NASA's dependence of Musk/SpaceX and suddenly Musk is threatening to decommission the rocket they are so dependent on. Whilst Musk has backed down on this it does highlight how vulnerable Government is. What's to say next tantrum he won't follow through and not back down.

And when countries become so dependent on StarrLink they also become dependent on Musk agreeing with their politics, legislation, etc.

Ian