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UglyWithaSidePart

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Is this the end of Labour's Brexit caution? | Andy Burnham analysis


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccf4peUOPJI


Here's am opportunity for us remoaners - write to your MP:

https://www.europeanmovement.co.uk/contact-mp-attend-eu-debate


We've been out of the Eu for 6 years now, that's easily enough time for metrics to prove it's been bad for not just the economy, but for quality of life. Not even touching on the immigrant situation.
Problem is, the type of people who in the main voted leave aren't happy unless they're punching down on someone.
Anyway, I have written to my MP.
 
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briantrumpet

briantrumpet

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This, from Ian Dunt, follows on from the thing about the Telegraph *not* going apeshit about Burnham breaking the Brexit omerta, and why I think it was a mistake of the Tories not to change the conversation earlier once the realisation that Brexit was never going to fix all the shit that was erroneously being pinned on the EU. Starmer was equally guilty as the Tories, but given the Tories' dire polling and the difficulty of differentiating themselves from Reform, it seemed like a door worth pushing. But they were to welded to Johnson's fiction and misadventure. They've lost that possible initiative now, and handed the narrative back to Labour.

Burnham's been canny (I think) in not predetermining the outcome of the discussion. Rather, I think, he has a hopeful hunch which way it might go.

https://inews.co.uk/opinion/brexit-years-grim-hateful-rejoin-4796710
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briantrumpet

briantrumpet

Timewaster
I think this is the thing... no-one's been prepared to make the argument, either on the triple lock, or Brexit. All of a sudden, done right, the triple lock bomb has been defused (at least for now) by the way the change was framed.

Incidentally, Jessica Elgot in the Graun said that Burham was still revising his speech after his morning jog (which suggests he wouldn't have run parts of it via any polls or focus groups), and that about a quarter of it was not scripted, which (if true) suggests he has a confidence to deliver an argument spontaneously which was *entirely* missing from Starmer.

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