C R
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I'll believe it when I see it, also, fat chance the EU trusting Britain ever again.
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[Casandra]
I'll believe it when I see it, also, fat chance the EU trusting Britain ever again.
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briantrumpet
Timewaster
Indeed so. But if chatter like this can lead to even just slightly more ambition on 'small technical improvements', it moving the thing in the right direction. I'm not really expecting anything substantial in my lifetime, but a drift back towards sanity and pragmatism would be a good start.
secretsqirrel
spiteful class warrior
There is hope. EU reviewing entrance criteria to allow fast track for Ukraine.
From FT this morning….
They may lower standards enough to allow UK back in
C R
Squire
There is hope. EU reviewing entrance criteria to allow fast track for Ukraine.
From FT this morning….
They may lower standards enough to allow UK back in
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Ukraine doesn't have a reason to make the EU distrust them.
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briantrumpet
Timewaster
Quite, though they would equally have to guard against a Ukraine version of Farage... and if the notion of a category of EU membership outside of the core bloc comes to pass, it would be surprising if it was set up to be Ukraine-specific. But the devil would be in the detail. On the plus side, there would be an incentive not to take 30 years to sort out the basics and get something in place.
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briantrumpet
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TailWindHome
Über Member
No man knows or understands what tarriff is applied to goods from NI imported into the US
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briantrumpet
Timewaster
Even I'm not this gung-ho, but the kind of rupture we're witnessing in what seemed to be an established world order does offer opportunities as well as threats. If the EU were to look at Greenland, Ukraine, Norway and Switzerland in ways that would bolster political clout outside of NATO, it would be surprising if the UK weren't at least part of the discussion about potential solutions.
And, I suspect, that the political rupture we're seeing is likely to change the perception of the UK electorate, quite apart from the economic data that's already emerging.
And, I suspect, that the political rupture we're seeing is likely to change the perception of the UK electorate, quite apart from the economic data that's already emerging.
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briantrumpet
Timewaster
From ten months ago. I wonder if this is sinking in yet. Maybe the entente cordiale always was more deep-seated than the 'special relationship'.
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briantrumpet
Timewaster
I think it would probably also be fair to say that it's unlikely any EU member countries will be looking at options outside of the EU now.
icowden
Pharaoh
I did read an article by someone in the IT sphere who pointed out that all of the agreements the EU and UK (and indeed rest of the world) have with the US on protecting software could be thrown in the bin. For example, there isn't a rival to the Apple Store because of trading contracts between the US and other countries which specifically prohibits altering software.
If they are no longer an Ally, we could just start altering their software. It could be a huge development opportunity as Apple, Google, Microsoft - all of them would lose their protections around the world if Trump were kicked out of NATO or left NATO.
I can't find the article now, but that was the gist.
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briantrumpet
Timewaster
It's this one that I posted in the Trump thread, I suspect. https://pluralistic.net/2026/01/01/39c3/#the-new-coalition
First Aspect
Legendary Member
I guarantee it's not that simple, because of all of the IP held in the European region.
icowden
Pharaoh
Thanks. Tired brain. Thought I read it on BluesKy
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briantrumpet
Timewaster
You might have done, as that's where I stumbled on it first. It's a good, long read.
