Farmers - a put upon minority or greedy gits - you decide.

[C R]

The farmers I know are mostly their own worst enemies.

I grew up in a farming community and 100% agree.

 

[matticus]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/cwypj14q122o

Regardless of which group you may, or may not, support, interesting that there does not appear to have been any arrests in the Farmers protests, unlike, Just Stop Oil protests when they block roads.

When the first protest occurred, it was stated they had permission. (whereas I think JSO openly make unsanctioned protests). If you (or anyone) can confirm this, and whther the protestors stuck to the agreed arrangements, I'd like to hear. IAMFI!

 

[Ian H]

When the first protest occurred, it was stated they had permission. (whereas I think JSO openly make unsanctioned protests). If you (or anyone) can confirm this, and whther the protestors stuck to the agreed arrangements, I'd like to hear. IAMFI!

Looking at the photos, the 'agreed arrangements', if any, were pretty minimal. Pro-Palestinian marches, which didn't have huge tractors to block the streets, were subject to draconian policing by comparison.

 

[C R]

Two tier policing.

 

[Electric_Andy]

Which I trust are congestion zone compliant? 🙂

I hope they are checking if the vehicles involved are running red diesel.

Agricultural vehicles are exempt from the ULEZ charge.
They do not have to use red diesel either. If they want to fill up with (more expensive) white diesel at a normal pump then they are free to do so. It's only a problem if the other way around e.g. you have a vehicle that is not registered as an agricultural vehicle but you use red diesel to dodge the fuel duty

 

[Beebo]

Agricultural vehicles are exempt from the ULEZ charge.
They do not have to use red diesel either. If they want to fill up with (more expensive) white diesel at a normal pump then they are free to do so. It's only a problem if the other way around e.g. you have a vehicle that is not registered as an agricultural vehicle but you use red diesel to dodge the fuel duty

I think the point is that whilst agriculture vehicles can use red diesel, they can only go on the public roads when travelling between fields.

 

[Badger_Boom]

Agricultural vehicles are exempt from the ULEZ charge.
They do not have to use red diesel either. If they want to fill up with (more expensive) white diesel at a normal pump then they are free to do so. It's only a problem if the other way around e.g. you have a vehicle that is not registered as an agricultural vehicle but you use red diesel to dodge the fuel duty

I was more interested to know if they were appropriately insured for journeys away from their farms.

 

[CXRAndy]

I know several farms that have huge distances between them.

Car insurance doesn't restrict distance from home for journeys

 

[Ian H]

I was more interested to know if they were appropriately insured for journeys away from their farms.

They would have to have road tax and full insurance, otherwise they're limited to 1.5km between properties and 6 miles a week on public highways.

 

[BoldonLad]

I know several farms that have huge distances between them.

Car insurance doesn't restrict distance from home for journeys

I know cars are getting bigger these days, but, most of those vehicles were not cars. 🙂

 

[CXRAndy]

They would have to have road tax and full insurance, otherwise they're limited to 1.5km between properties and 6 miles a week on public highways.

Farm vehicles don't actually pay road tax, but they still have to acknowledge to DVLA the vehicle is in use. Essentially it's zero rated

 

[tarric]

Agricultural vehicles are exempt from the ULEZ charge.
They do not have to use red diesel either. If they want to fill up with (more expensive) white diesel at a normal pump then they are free to do so. It's only a problem if the other way around e.g. you have a vehicle that is not registered as an agricultural vehicle but you use red diesel to dodge the fuel duty

 

[Electric_Andy]

line of cars stuck behind the tractor

That seems a funny thing to complain about on a cycling forum. Same rules apply - they don't have to pull over and let impatient drivers pass, in the same way as cyclists don't either. If there is no room to overtake safely then you do 25mph for a bit instead of 50

 

[Electric_Andy]

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I corrected you about running red diesel and you didn't like it, so it's not really the wrong end of the stick is it?

 

[tarric]

I corrected you about running red diesel and you didn't like it, so it's not really the wrong end of the stick is it?

And you still are getting

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