Frank Field RIP

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Sad news. I've always had a lot of respect for him. He was a lot less tribal than most politicians.

 

[BoldonLad]

Sad news. I've always had a lot of respect for him. He was a lot less tribal than most politicians.

Agreed, me too.

 

[All uphill]

He was, imo, always worth listening to. A thoughtful man.

I can't think of a current MP who fits that description.

 

[AndyRM]

Thoughtful, sure.

Less tribal? Not so much.

 

[Rusty Nails]

Thoughtful, sure.

Less tribal? Not so much.

Every party politician has an element of tribalism...that's why they join a party.

Do you have specific reasons to doubt Frank Field was less tribal than most politicians?

 

[AndyRM]

Every party politician has an element of tribalism...that's why they join a party.

Do you have specific reasons to doubt Frank Field was less tribal than most politicians?

Tribal is possibly the wrong word. I'm not sure what would be to be honest.

A Conservative in Labour clothing doesn't have much of a ring to it.

 

[Rusty Nails]

Tribal is possibly the wrong word. I'm not sure what would be to be honest.

A Conservative in Labour clothing doesn't have much of a ring to it.

So not as tribal as some Labour or Conservative supporters who believe there is only one version of their true faith, which must not be diverged from.
Like religion it's always the fundamentalists that cause the problems in politics.

 

[AndyRM]

So not as tribal as some Labour or Conservative supporters who believe there is only one version of their true faith, which must not be diverged from.
Like religion it's always the fundamentalists that cause the problems in politics.

Well, yeah, which is why I said that "tribal" probably wasn't the right word.

Maybe "archetypal fence sitter" would be better? An undoubtedly intelligent fella, but for me was a bit lacking as a politician.

 

[BoldonLad]

Well, yeah, which is why I said that "tribal" probably wasn't the right word.

Maybe "archetypal fence sitter" would be better? An undoubtedly intelligent fella, but for me was a bit lacking as a politician.

You are probably right, far too inclined to sensible suggestions to be taken seriously as a politician. 😊

 

[AndyRM]

You are probably right, far too inclined to sensible suggestions to be taken seriously as a politician. 😊

"Maggie, you're done. It's time for John Major."

That kind of sensible suggestion?

 

[Rusty Nails]

Well, yeah, which is why I said that "tribal" probably wasn't the right word.

Maybe "archetypal fence sitter" would be better? An undoubtedly intelligent fella, but for me was a bit lacking as a politician.

I can understand why some might think that, depending on how tribal their own views on politics are.

In my view the polarisation of politics into two camps is so 19th century, a bit like the gender debate where many believe you must be one or the other and never vary from the historical definition.

 

[BoldonLad]

"Maggie, you're done. It's time for John Major."

That kind of sensible suggestion?

Did Frank Field suggest that?, link would be useful

 

[Mr Celine]

You are probably right, far too inclined to sensible suggestions to be taken seriously as a politician. 😊

He supported Brexit. That outweighs any sensible suggestions he may have made.

 

[AndyRM]

Did Frank Field suggest that?, link would be useful

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8248795.stm

 

[BoldonLad]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8248795.stm

Thank you. Well every day is a school day. Some interesting stuff in there, including how childish some of our "leaders" can be.