Gender again. Sorry!

[monkers]

This seems very overblown. The original query was a response / pushback to comments about dishonesty. IIRC Aurora pushed back on whether @monkers genuinely had received an e-mail as she was not aware of the article ever being e-mailed. Both she and Andy requested that @monkers provide the header of the e-mail as proof that it is existed. That was it really.

However, If you are someone posting on behalf of @monkers because she is unwell, then the discussion isn't really worth bothering with and I hope I speak for all of us here in wishing her well and hoping she is back to challenge our ideas when she is feeling better. This is a discussion forum and we all have robust and differing opinions. That's kind of the point.

Merry Christmas!

The point is that Monica was telling the truth. The overblown hectoring that is being carried out by some people (cowards) with resistance to truth. You are among their number Mr Cowden.

Good day to you.

 

[icowden]

Are we speaking to ghostly relatives whilst emergency Medical attention is being administered or was it a falsey alarm

My impression is that we have been speaking to @monkers niece and that @monkers is unwell.
I don't think we need this discussion to continue for the time being. Discussion should be fun and stimulating and this is just getting concerning.

 

[icowden]

The point is that Monica was telling the truth.

Again. No-one suggested that she wasn't. Only that she substantiate it, during the cut and thrust of a discussion which at that point was challenging honesty.

The overblown hectoring that is being carried out by some people (cowards) with resistance to truth. You are among their number Mr Cowden.

I'm going to have to disagree with you on that one. I do try to answer @monkers points and to consider them without resorting to personal attacks. I was trying to help the situation but it appears it didn't work.

Good day to you.

Merry Christmas to you too. Please have a peaceful one, and remember that this is only a discussion forum for bored cycling people.

 

[AuroraSaab]

None of these pedantic digressions would matter except that you have repeatedly done it. You repeatedly chuck out these comments that casually denigrate people so that casual readers will take them at face value rather than asking whether they are true.

You even did it yesterday when you claimed 'You said I live in squalor' when nobody said anything of the sort.

Please can you kindly explain the reason for your contributions that could be argued as incitement to commit an offence? I feel quite certain that your ultimate employer, the NHS, would be concerned to see you acting in this manner.

And now, in my opinion, you seem to be threatening to report someone to their employer.

I am happy to leave this digression now as people can read the discussion and make their own mind up.

 

[monkers]

I hope I speak for all of us here in wishing her well and hoping she is back to challenge our ideas when she is feeling better.

Notwithstanding our disagreement, I thank you for the sentiment. Thank you also to @AndyRM who I know has been in contact with Monica privately beforehand concerning her health.

She is indeed very poorly. She is being kept in hospital at least overnight, though I predict it may be longer. I'll pass on the message of goodwill.

I feel sad that my contributions have had to be made in the tone I felt necessary to robustly challenge. She mentions some of you to me with affection.

I have no wish to participate further in the discussion, but I will update you with regards to Monica.

 

[newfhouse]

I will update you with regards to Monica.

Please give her my best wishes for a swift recovery.

 

[monkers]

Please give her my best wishes for a swift recovery.

I certainly will @newfhouse. She always speaks highly of you. x

 

[icowden]

She is indeed very poorly. She is being kept in hospital at least overnight, though I predict it may be longer. I'll pass on the message of goodwill.
I feel sad that my contributions have had to be made in the tone I felt necessary to robustly challenge. She mentions some of you to me with affection.
I have no wish to participate further in the discussion, but I will update you with regards to Monica.

Thanks. As I said before, I'm sure all of us would like her to rest, get better and wish her well. We might have opinions and disagreements but we are not monsters.
Please both of you take the time needed to get better, and thank you for letting us know and send her our best wishes.

 

[classic33]

You're using it in reference to me. Surely you should explain it to us? There were several results when I googled it so why don't you let us know which one you had in mind?

BK is in the male wing. With other male prisoners. With male prison officers. They seem to be doing better there. Perhaps it'll be safer for them to socialise with other prisoners now, which will improve their mental health. You should be pleased.

Why?

You tell me what you know I think it means, and maybe I'll let you know if you get it correct.

Limerick Prison is two separate prisons within the same outer wall. The building that the judge decided she hat to spend her remaining time in prison in, is the one she is still in now. The only difference being that it was "signed over" to the men's prison. The women's prison, for which it was built, lost a purpose built facility.

You'll find that there are men and women prison officers in both sections of Limerick Prison.

And, given that you have said, more than once, you aren't bothered about her, you are showing an awful lot of interest in her. She still remains locked up for 22 hours a day* (according to the third hand report you linked to).


*A treatment you said was inhumane when applied to women.

 

[AuroraSaab]

Why? You tell me what you know I think it means, and maybe I'll let you know if you get it correct.

Don't you know? Why use it then?

Limerick Prison is two separate prisons within the same outer wall. The building that the judge decided she hat to spend her remaining time in prison in, is the one she is still in now. The only difference being that it was "signed over" to the men's prison.

So, in the men's bit then, as is appropriate.

You'll find that there are men and women prison officers in both sections of Limerick Prison.

But more women officers in the women's, and more men in the men's, I'll wager.

And, given that you have said, more than once, you aren't bothered about her, you are showing an awful lot of interest in her. She still remains locked up for 22 hours a day* (according to the third hand report you linked to).

I only care in so much as I think all prisoners everywhere should be treated decently. I certainly wouldn't prioritise Barbie Khardashian's residential desires over the welfare of imprisoned Irish women, as you do.

*A treatment you said was inhumane when applied to women.

Being forced to stay in your cell all day without good reason is inhumane. Perhaps BK's isolation is based on previous behaviour.
As their behaviour has reportedly improved since they moved to the men's prison I would imagine there is now at least some prospect of a less isolated existence.

 

[classic33]

Don't you know? Why use it then?

oh I know, it's just you've made yourself an authority on what people think they know, I thought you'd know.

 

[bobzmyunkle]

oh I know, it's just you've made yourself an authority on what people think they know, I thought you'd know.

Nobber

 

[AndyRM]

Must admit I'm mystified by the M.G.G. thing, if that's where we still are?

 

[Deleted member 159]

Must admit I'm mystified by the M.G.G. thing, if that's where we still are?

I don't really know, mystery people typing in similar styles to others, prisons, acronyms

 

[AuroraSaab]

It's a reference to me he started using here, Andy.

Still trying to figure out why you're hiding behind a false facade.
Could it be true?

M.G.G.

As he's gone all shy it looks like we'll never know whether it's the South American acronym that stands for co*ksucker or he's talking about me being a 'male gay girlfriend', ie my partner is gay.

Guessing it wasn't the investment group MGG.

Rather a sad attempt at homophobia though as I don't regard being called gay an insult. I've been called trans and gay on here before by the Trans Women Are Women fans, but as I say, it's not an insult so I can only wonder about the mentality of people who think being gay is something to be embarrassed about.