Gulf War No.37: Iranistan

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Milzy

Senior Member
I stand with Lebanon, and by proxy Iran. Hezbollah has been the force protecting Christians in Lebanon ever since the CIA and the Mossad unleashed ISIS Satanists upon the Middle East, and they still protect them now from Israel. Ever notice that Iran and Hezbollah never attack first, they have only ever responded due to bloodlust and murderous action from Israel and the US.
 

Pinno718

Legendary Member
You may want to read Article 37 of the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS)

The IRGC are a menace to their own people but there is absolutely zero evidence that they were going to strike externally, nuclear or otherwise. Historically, despite what some politicians claim, Iran has carried out very few direct, unprovoked strikes.
The US and Israel bomb Iran and on day 1, 163 primary school children are killed. Over the course of the next few weeks...

US-based non-governmental organization, documented 3,636 deaths in Iran due to strikes, including 1,701 civilians, 1,221 military personnel, and 714 unclassified.

So despite an unprovoked, illegal act by the US and Israel, Iran has to roll over and submit to an international act of terrorism where the perpetrators get to dictate t's and c's? What is the problem to which this (the act of killing Iranians) is the solution?
Almost immediately (café bombing kills 8, wounds many), Israel continue strikes on Iran and does not honour the ceasefire. One of the terms was that Israel cease bombing in Lebanon.
'Menacing' regime or not, you can fully understand that Iran does not trust the West nor Israel.
Why should Iran allow shipping connected to those countries who either assisted (or did not attempt to prevent) acts of state terrorism?
You cannot simply wind the clock back to where we were before this conflict when the West/Israel have killed civilians, wrecked infrastructure and continues to kill civilians and wreck infrastructure despite agreeing to a ceasefire.
Please tell me who are the terrorists in this conflict. Please tell me why Iran should open up the strait of Hormuz whilst still being bombed by an aggressive foreign country? Why should Iran foot the reconstruction bill following an unprovoked act of unlawful and unwarranted terrorism? Two wrongs do not make a right before you play that limp, hypocritical card.

Imagine if a foreign country bombed a primary school in Surrey killing 163 and Tower bridge was wrecked and they hit a few power plants and many random civilian targets were hit. Are the lives of Iranian citizens worth so little to you? Would you be happy to allow that foreign country to pass through the English channel given the choice? And don't tell me the notion is preposterous because that's exactly what is happening in Iran. If you see it otherwise, then you are a contrary piece of sh*t that places differing values to life based on ethnicity ('them foreigners innit').
Funny how the Iranians are menacing and the US and Israel are not.
 

Moodyman

Regular
Where was this outrage when 40,000 civilians were murdered by irgc?

I suspect its TDS affecting you

These are made up numbers by Trump & Co and they climb every day. The real numbers are 3,000 +/-. In addition, these were insurrectionists who were armed by Mossad - confirmed by Israeli media and Mike Pompeo.

And, pls don’t feign your sympathy for ordinary Iranians.
 

BoldonLad

Old man on a bike. Not a member of a clique.
Location
South Tyneside
Why should Iran be getting anything for ships travelling in International waters?
it has as much right to any payment for each ship as I do OR cHINA, rUSSIA, nORTH kOREA ETC DOES

Its basically demanding money with menaces

Not sure what your point is?,

1. are the Straits of Hormuz international Waters?

2. Do so called terrorist groups, usually obey international law?
 

Psamathe

Guru
Not sure what your point is?,

1. are the Straits of Hormuz international Waters?

2. Do so called terrorist groups, usually obey international law?
And maybe Iran is just following the lead of others?
Trump on Wednesday said he is considering the formation of a “joint venture” with Iran to set up tolls in the Strait of Hormuz.
“We’re thinking of doing it as a joint venture,” the president told ABC News’s Jonathan Karl. “It’s a way of securing it — also securing it from lots of other people. It’s a beautiful thing.”
(from https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/5821752-iran-ship-toll-cryptocurrency-strait-hormuz/)
 

First Aspect

Legendary Member
I am wondering how the joint venture would work. If someone doesn't pay for transit through the Straight, Iran attacks them.

What would the US do?

Or is it more a case that you can chose to pay the US so French and British warships can escort them through, or alternatively pay Iran?
 
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