Gulf War No.37: Iranistan

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Dorset Boy

Well-Known Member
Has any war ever ended with one single round of peace talks?
Vance and co really are in cuckoo land.
He also has zero experience of international negotiation by all accounts....
 

Blazing Saddles

Well-Known Member
Another TACO Tuesday, followed by the shortest peace negotiations in recent memory.
It’s all about manipulating the markets and insider trading innit?
 

TailWindHome

Senior Member
Marathon talks apparently

Not going to be easy to get back to the deal they had (but without the black man's signature)

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Pblakeney

Legendary Member
Marathon talks apparently

Not going to be easy to get back to the deal they had (but without the black man's signature)

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That is nail on the head. They had the agreements but Donnie threw them away. They were negotiating equivalent agreements but Donnie threw in the bombs. The blame for all the current world issues lie at the feet of one man, and those who influence him. He could say no.
 

Psamathe

Legendary Member
Re: Nuclear Weapons
I suspect recent events have just reinforced Iran's view that they need nuclear weapons.

I'd also be surprised if other Gulf states didn't not look to get nuclear weapons, not to counter should Iran get them but I think they probably see the source of the major threat to any peace in the Middle East and they need nuclear weapons as well to put forward a matching threat.
 

wafter

New Member
Not surprised this has died on its arse as the yanks are still attempting to emply bully-boy tactics despite increasingly looking like the weaker party with zero leverage or credibility to back this up.

Their tactics appear limited to an incoherent and insincere mishmash of contradictory statments including threats, compromise and capitulation. This appears partially the result of attempts to manipulate the markets, but also the fact that they have absolutely no idea what they're doing so just keep cycling through this tired, pointless playbook.

Meanwhile it seems that all the Israel is increasingly exposing itself as a dangerous, rogue state with it's increasingly obvious and shameless programs of ethnic cleanising against its neighbours; the only goal of its leadership apparently total, ongoing war until every arab settlement in the area has been completely destroyed. (which may have contributed to this latest failure of "negotiations"). The Iranians are probably committed to the long game as they know they can neither trust the US, not expect them to capitulate enough to justify a ceasefire; while a war of attrition suits them.

I read recently that Israel was down to "double digit" numbers of interceptor missiles (not sure how many they started with) and that now 80% of Iranian missiles / drones were breaching Israeli air defences. If this is true it's extremely concerning for Israel; signalling the liklihood that their psychopathic "leaders" have led them to a point where soon they'll be unable to defend against and airbourne attacks. It seems that their regime's desire for aggression against other territories is increasingly being prioritised over protecting their own.

The lack of footage / news coming out of any of the affected territories remains telling and this has to be one of the most opaque conflicts in recent history in this regard. While likely that all sides are concealing the true extent of their losses, I suspect that Israel especially has had far more of a hammering than it's letting on and creeping increasingly towards a genuine existential crisis given the number of conflicts it's provoked with its neighbours.
 

Rusty Nails

Country Member
Re: Nuclear Weapons
I suspect recent events have just reinforced Iran's view that they need nuclear weapons.

I'd also be surprised if other Gulf states didn't not look to get nuclear weapons, not to counter should Iran get them but I think they probably see the source of the major threat to any peace in the Middle East and they need nuclear weapons as well to put forward a matching threat.

They could just try to buy them from one of the established members of the club that is allowed to make them.
 
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briantrumpet

briantrumpet

Timewaster
Not surprised this has died on its arse as the yanks are still attempting to emply bully-boy tactics despite increasingly looking like the weaker party with zero leverage or credibility to back this up.

Their tactics appear limited to an incoherent and insincere mishmash of contradictory statments including threats, compromise and capitulation. This appears partially the result of attempts to manipulate the markets, but also the fact that they have absolutely no idea what they're doing so just keep cycling through this tired, pointless playbook.

Meanwhile it seems that all the Israel is increasingly exposing itself as a dangerous, rogue state with it's increasingly obvious and shameless programs of ethnic cleanising against its neighbours; the only goal of its leadership apparently total, ongoing war until every arab settlement in the area has been completely destroyed. (which may have contributed to this latest failure of "negotiations"). The Iranians are probably committed to the long game as they know they can neither trust the US, not expect them to capitulate enough to justify a ceasefire; while a war of attrition suits them.

I read recently that Israel was down to "double digit" numbers of interceptor missiles (not sure how many they started with) and that now 80% of Iranian missiles / drones were breaching Israeli air defences. If this is true it's extremely concerning for Israel; signalling the liklihood that their psychopathic "leaders" have led them to a point where soon they'll be unable to defend against and airbourne attacks. It seems that their regime's desire for aggression against other territories is increasingly being prioritised over protecting their own.

The lack of footage / news coming out of any of the affected territories remains telling and this has to be one of the most opaque conflicts in recent history in this regard. While likely that all sides are concealing the true extent of their losses, I suspect that Israel especially has had far more of a hammering than it's letting on and creeping increasingly towards a genuine existential crisis given the number of conflicts it's provoked with its neighbours.

I think they are still smarting that Ukraine has had the cheek to carry on fighting, largely with a still-expanding drone capability, despite Wittkoff and Trump trying to get them to concede in response to the US ending all support and lifting sanctions against Russia.

They don't seem to grasp that this Trumpian simplistic bullying is just making the US less and less credible and relevant. The only people who believe it are Magaheads; everyone else sees it for what it is (cf Hungary).
 

Pblakeney

Legendary Member
So long as the Hormuz strait stays shut to the infidel and their enablers, Iran will continue to weaken the West both politically and financially. It may even fund and an endless conveyor of drones and missiles.

Let the flattening begin. 😢
To see how Lebanon and Iran will go just look at Gaza. Then what? Iraq? (Just in the Middle East as there is also the siege of Cuba.)
 
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