Gulf War No.37: Iranistan

[First Aspect]

I've not been here long enough to figure the personalities out yet.
I'll just say it's more of an Occam's razer type thing than a conspiracy theory.
One thing is for sure, we can no more trust the Whitehouse than we can the Kremlin these days.

What Paul Whitehouse got to do with an early nougties mobile phone?

 

[Pinno718]

Sorry, been out on the bike all day and missed it!

All day?!
You must be fit.

 

[Psamathe]

The News Agents podcast highlighted one of the major problems facing the peace process. Trùmp is looking for an event rather than a process. Peace talks are ongoing processes.

Thinking it's the same problem for Gaza where Trùmp got his event and since then no process so Israel's just reverted to form as Trümp's moved on looking for next event.

 

[Ian H]

What Paul Whitehouse got to do with an early nougties mobile phone?

I thought he meant Mary.

 

[dutchguylivingintheuk]

The News Agents podcast highlighted one of the major problems facing the peace process. Trùmp is looking for an event rather than a process. Peace talks are ongoing processes.

Thinking it's the same problem for Gaza where Trùmp got his event and since then no process so Israel's just reverted to form as Trümp's moved on looking for next event.

I think with Gaza that's indeed a very reasonable point, as it's not just Hamas but many other fractions and disputes on both sides. Along with shrines nd other places holy for at least two religions.
As for Iran, it has been stable hating the west and their own population(if they don't agree with their exact reading of things) for the past years so any peace deal might see them return to hanging people because they think or they say they are gay, arresting women and raping thm in jails because they did not wear the veil as described by the modesty police, unloading a kalasnikov or other machine gun on peacefull protestors.

In short a peace deal probably solves Trumps problem, just not that of those people happen to be born there and happen to not agree with their regime.

 

[Ian H]

Iran has a wicked regime, but a just war depends on a sober judgment that violence is a necessary last resort. Instead Mr Trump treated Iran as a vanity project, in which America's strength absolved him of the responsibility for thinking through the consequences of choosing to attack. Might alone is not right. Sometimes it fails even to bring victory.
[The Economist]

 

[Milzy]

Believe me, this isn’t anything to do with their ability to produce nuclear weapons. If that was a conspiracy theory I’d know about it.

 

[TailWindHome]

 

[CXRAndy]

The US will possibly return to this


View: https://x.com/i/status/2027840627845562382

 

[Pinno718]

Stupid stupid stupid useless morons.
They probably went in saying 'you need to listen to us' [because we're the big boys with the powa to destroy].

 

[CXRAndy]

Well they are.

 

[Pinno718]

Vance "It's bad news for America but that means it's even worse news for Iran".
If that isn't a threat then my granny plays for Hull Kingston Rovers as a prop [and she's not even alive].
What a horrible regime.

 

[Pblakeney]

Stupid stupid stupid useless morons.
They probably went in saying 'you need to listen to us' [because we're the big boys with the powa to destroy].

Utterly predictable. Mostly because we did.

 

[secretsqirrel]

Utterly predictable. Mostly because we did.

This. Time and time again the Trump regime shows that they have no idea how to negotiate, just demand and have tantrum if they don’t get what they want. *RSE of the Deal.

 

[Pinno718]

Vance: Going on and on about assurances regarding the development of nuclear weapons not being met... wtaf? So I guess Vance is going to spin the impasse as though Iran is dangerous and unreasonable and we have no idea what the actual reasons are.