How wealthy?

Which decile are you (including all assets, including property, pensions, savings etc)?

  • Decile 1

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Decile 2

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Decile 3

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Decile 4

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • Decile 5

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Decile 6

    Votes: 4 17.4%
  • Decile 7

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • Decile 8

    Votes: 3 13.0%
  • Decile 9

    Votes: 10 43.5%
  • Decile 10

    Votes: 4 17.4%

  • Total voters
    23
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BoldonLad

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Complete opposite here. If I'm working then I'm getting paid. Not always on extra O/T rate, but always on an hourly rate min. Either management have underestimated the job (not my fault) or they'd have thought I was slow and they'd have got rid. They didn't.

Fair enough. It wasn't me who said payment for overtime was a rarity, in this day and age, it was First Aspect.
 
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briantrumpet

briantrumpet

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Fair enough. It wasn't me who said payment for overtime was a rarity, in this day and age, it was First Aspect.

PB didn't dare reply to FA, as FA is always right (apart from when he's not).
 

First Aspect

Über Member
PB didn't dare reply to FA, as FA is always right (apart from when he's not).
It does appear that about 3/4 UK workers don't get it. The statutory requirement is for pay overall to exceed minimum wage. So I would need to work about 200 hours a week to qualify.
 
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briantrumpet

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It does appear that about 3/4 UK workers don't get it. The statutory requirement is for pay overall to exceed minimum wage. So I would need to work about 200 hours a week to qualify.

Get busy then!

FWIW, I've never, not once, got overtime. When work's needed doing, I've just done it. In my farming days, that was all weekends and bank holidays, and as a musician it's all the times when everybody else is asleep or being entertained. At least I don't now work when most other people have to.
 
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Get busy then!

FWIW, I've never, not once, got overtime. When work's needed doing, I've just done it. In my farming days, that was all weekends and bank holidays, and as a musician it's all the times when everybody else is asleep or being entertained. At least I don't now work when most other people have to.

I worked in the charity sector for years where a 35hr week was more like 50 for no extra pay as it was all in the name of doing good!
 

Pblakeney

Senior Member
This is just the difference between a salary and a wage.
And clearly self employed people don’t get OT.

Self employed people should be charging by the hour though?
Hopefully they'd get their estimate correct if billing fixed price.
 

Bazzer

Senior Member
I hadn't had overtime for many years due a rule that at a point in greasy pole of promotion, it stopped. If you had to work longer hours you could in theory reclaim it as time off in lieu.
That didn't work in my last role. Recording hours stopped, becoming pointless when I was owed the equivalent of 4 working weeks.
 

Stevo 666

Über Member
This is just the difference between a salary and a wage.
And clearly self employed people don’t get OT.

Pretty much this.

I suppose for a lot of employees, bonuses come into the equation although those tend to be a reward for results rather than hours worked.
 

Shortfall

Member
He certainly was an enigma. You can generally get partially inside the head of most people who do a lot of forum posting, whether they are Walter Mittys, trolls, or just vaguely normal, but RC was a strange one - he pretty much unloaded the contents of his head onto CS, but I never worked out what he'd have been like if you met him in a pub (other than short, skinny, and bald).

In order for him to be in the pub he would have to have left the area of safety behind his sofa.
 

Stevo 666

Über Member
I think RC had lot of hate to share out. Including people a decade younger than you. Or anyone really who owned a house he would have been able to afford if he'd been born 5 years or more earlier.

I think there's an acronym for the likes of RC - HENRY (High Earning, Not Rich Yet). I think there was an element of the 'I want it all now' and a failure to appreciate that becoming wealthy often takes time in this thought process. Effectively the old profit & loss vs balance sheet distinction.
 

First Aspect

Über Member
I think there's an acronym for the likes of RC - HENRY (High Earning, Not Rich Yet). I think there was an element of the 'I want it all now' and a failure to appreciate that becoming wealthy often takes time in this thought process. Effectively the old profit & loss vs balance sheet distinction.
Ah right I'm a Henry in that case.
 
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