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Pross

Pross

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bobzmyunkle said:
Maybe we can have a quick poll on that?
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I would use being able to spell Israel in posts as a starting point.
 
glasgowcyclist

glasgowcyclist

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Goonerobes said:
You seem to have forgotten to mention it was in response to the Palestinians hurling explosives towards troops & sending incendiary balloons into Israel.
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The point is that it didn’t start on 7 October.

(Besides, throwing explosives at an occupying army is legitimate resistance. The IOF can’t claim self-defence when they’re illegally occupying and controlling someone else’s land.)
 
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dutchguylivingintheuk

dutchguylivingintheuk

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All uphill said:
Bollox it's whataboutery!

How the Palestinians have been treated is real and relevant, and you know that, too.
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Yes how the Palestinians have and are being treated is very relevant, it is however beside the whataboutery if you say that in response to the October 7 Hamas attacks. The second world war was also a longer conflict, Jews where portrayed in a certain way for years prior Hitlers ''final soluttion'' that does not take away that if we speak about the second world war, we speak about the second world war. same applies here.


glasgowcyclist said:
Israel bombed Gaza three times in the month before that; September 2023.
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You have been educated in the meantime that it was a response instead of an unprovoked attack. Maybe you should stop reading those outlets that collect data from one side and then present that side as the big victims. they arent't
 
Xipe Totec

Xipe Totec

Something nasty in the woodshed
dutchguylivingintheuk said:
Maybe you should stop reading those outlets that collect data from one side and then present that side as the big victims. they arent't
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Good to clarify that the 'side' (y'know - the ones without a massive, modern, highly armed organised military) with verified fatalities approaching 70,000 and fück alone knows how many multiples of that under the rubble of the countless flattened buildings aren't "the big victims". :okay:
 
cookiemonster

cookiemonster

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dutchguylivingintheuk said:
Yes how the Palestinians have and are being treated is very relevant, it is however beside the whataboutery if you say that in response to the October 7 Hamas attacks. The second world war was also a longer conflict, Jews where portrayed in a certain way for years prior Hitlers ''final soluttion'' that does not take away that if we speak about the second world war, we speak about the second world war. same applies here.



You have been educated in the meantime that it was a response instead of an unprovoked attack. Maybe you should stop reading those outlets that collect data from one side and then present that side as the big victims. they arent't
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Explain why the IDF and the Israhelli Gov have refused journalists and diplomats entry to Palestine for two years?

It does seem that Israhell are doing exactly what you accuse of everyone else of doing.
 
CXRAndy

CXRAndy

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cookiemonster said:
Explain why the IDF and the Israhelli Gov have refused journalists and diplomats entry to Palestine for two years?

It does seem that Israhell are doing exactly what you accuse of everyone else of doing.
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Its a relatively small battlefield, fighting across most of it. We know hamas were pretending to be journalists to gain access. They were quickly eliminated. Not wanting to wipe out other journalists, better to ban them all.
 
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