Israel / Palestine

[matticus]

Kneecap have issued a statement saying they don't support Hamas and Hezbollah and saying ''Kill your local MP" was not a call to action but taken out of context:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czrvx04e1e6o.amp

So, Glasto has reignited the Kneecap "saga" ... various Prominent Figures have condemned them, and it seems BBC have just released their planned coverage schedule; which excludes Kneecap.

Over on Twitter it's been suggested that the BBC broadcast their set, but with the vocals overdubbed by a plummy english actor.
Gerry Adams, never forgotten ... :P

 

[Beebo]

So, Glasto has reignited the Kneecap "saga" ... various Prominent Figures have condemned them, and it seems BBC have just released their planned coverage schedule; which excludes Kneecap.

Over on Twitter it's been suggested that the BBC broadcast their set, but with the vocals overdubbed by a plummy english actor.
Gerry Adams, never forgotten ... :P

Surely the singer has to be holding a helium balloon

 

[Pross]

So, Glasto has reignited the Kneecap "saga" ... various Prominent Figures have condemned them, and it seems BBC have just released their planned coverage schedule; which excludes Kneecap.

Over on Twitter it's been suggested that the BBC broadcast their set, but with the vocals overdubbed by a plummy english actor.
Gerry Adams, never forgotten ... :P

Ah, 30 year old observational comedy!

 

[Badger_Boom]

Ah, 30 year old observational comedy!

Art imitating life imitating art? When the BBC finally allowed Adams' real voice to be heard again someone (I can't remember who) produced a comedy sketch about the struggle of his former voice over actor to find new employment.

 

[Ian H]

Art imitating life imitating art? When the BBC finally allowed Adams' real voice to be heard again someone (I can't remember who) produced a comedy sketch about the struggle of his former voice over actor to find new employment.

Quite a shock to discover that Adams spoke just like those Ulster Prods.

 

[briantrumpet]

Art imitating life imitating art? When the BBC finally allowed Adams' real voice to be heard again someone (I can't remember who) produced a comedy sketch about the struggle of his former voice over actor to find new employment.

I had a vague recollection of Adams meeting one of those voice-over actors... I can't find any mention anywhere though, which is a pity, as I think it could be quite amusing.

I still find it slightly problematic liking Adams and recognising his intellect, given his links to terrorism (a very good friend of mine's mother was killed in the Brighton bomb, so I imagine her feelings would be uncharitable), but there's little doubt he is an effective and thoughtful politician now.

 

[secretsqirrel]

I had a vague recollection of Adams meeting one of those voice-over actors... I can't find any mention anywhere though, which is a pity, as I think it could be quite amusing.

I still find it slightly problematic liking Adams and recognising his intellect, given his links to terrorism (a very good friend of mine's mother was killed in the Brighton bomb, so I imagine her feelings would be uncharitable), but there's little doubt he is an effective and thoughtful politician now.

This is the thing. Many politicians once they are out of the heat of the kitchen turn back into the reasonable adults they were before.
There are notable exceptions tho’, but they probably weren’t reasonable adults to start with.

 

[PurplePenguin]

Bob Vylan's chant was apparently so bad the BBC should have cut away immediately; however, it was sufficiently inoffensive that it has been repeated all over the mainstream media.

 

[Pross]

Whilst crass and not exactly the height of political commentary the reaction seems over the top considering it was specifically soldiers they referred to, no doubt it has been conflated into being anti-Semetic by people unable to seperate comments aimed at the Israeli state and Jews in general. That said, the bits I've heard all cut their clips off before the most controversial bit.

As I said on another thread, Wes Streeting's response to the Israelis when they complained about it was pretty good. It was about time politicians started calling out their hypocrisy.

 

[bobzmyunkle]

no doubt it has been conflated into being anti-Semetic by people unable to seperate comments aimed at the Israeli state and Jews in general.

The BBC has said it should have cut the live stream of Bob Vylan’s Glastonbury performance, saying it contained “utterly unacceptable” antisemitic sentiments.

Genocide? What genocide?

 

[Psamathe]

Bob Vylan's chant was apparently so bad the BBC should have cut away immediately; however, it was sufficiently inoffensive that it has been repeated all over the mainstream media.

Whilst crass and not exactly the height of political commentary the reaction seems over the top considering it was specifically soldiers they referred to, no doubt it has been conflated into being anti-Semetic by people unable to seperate comments aimed at the Israeli state and Jews in general. That said, the bits I've heard all cut their clips off before the most controversial bit.

Without defending the chant, what I'm finding increasingly annoying is that anything said criticising Israel's actions is immediately being called "anti-semitic". Of course anti-semitism should be called out, as should atrocities and those committing them. But my understanding is anti-semitism is "Antisemitism is a certain perception of Jews, which may be expressed as hatred toward Jews" and IDF is not a Jewish organisation but an agent of the Israeli state and that service is required based on citizenship and those serving in the IDF include eg bedouin arabs, Druze and Circassians.

Why must those Israeli representatives that keep appearing keep misusing the "anti-semitism" and as a pretty unsubtle means of deflecting and avoiding criticism.

Ian

 

[matticus]

Bob Vylan's chant was apparently so bad the BBC should have cut away immediately;

It was pretty shocking - I only went to see some decent covers; "Like a Rolling Stone", that sort of thing ...

 

[Pblakeney]

Fück the IDF! And just in case there is any confusion, fück Hamas!
There are many ways to bring about peace but killing at least 20 by bombing a cafe is not one of them.
This assumes that peace is wanted. Fück Netanyahu!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c62884y1pl5o

 

[Xipe Totec]

 

[CXRAndy]

Fück the IDF! And just in case there is any confusion, fück Hamas!
There are many ways to bring about peace but killing at least 20 by bombing a cafe is not one of them.
This assumes that peace is wanted. Fück Netanyahu!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c62884y1pl5o

How do you know that the cluster of 20 were not hamas fighters, hiding out in a cafe?

Can't imagine cafe and shops are running normal service, when allegedly all of them are starving