Israel / Palestine

[Pblakeney]

Aye, for the Israeli regime it’s the leaking of the evidence that’s the problem, not the rape and abuse of detainees.

That is exactly as it is going down.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy0kpd97qqko

 

[briantrumpet]

This was the aim all along: make it uninhabitable so Israel could seize it. In a just world, they would be made to rebuild it, block by block, and hand it back to the Palestinians, whose land it is.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0rp4lrdv8ko

The Gaza of maps and memories is gone, replaced by a monochrome landscape of rubble stretching flat and still for 180 degrees, from Beit Hanoun on one side to Gaza City on the other.

Beyond the distant shapes of buildings still standing inside Gaza City, there's almost nothing left to orient you here, or identify the neighbourhoods that once held tens of thousands of people.

This was one of the first areas Israeli ground troops entered in the early weeks of the war. Since then they have been back multiple times, as Hamas regrouped around its strongholds in the area.

Israel does not allow news organisations to report independently from Gaza. Today it took a group of journalists, including the BBC, into the area of the Strip occupied by Israeli forces.

The brief visit was highly controlled and offered no access to Palestinians, or other areas of Gaza.
Military censorship laws in Israel mean that military personnel were shown our material before publication. The BBC maintained editorial control of this report at all times.

 

[CXRAndy]

They will rebuild the area, for themselves.

Not some for terrorists to continue their attacks upon Israeli people

 

[AndyRM]

Going off that bizarre logic we should flatten the "sh!thole" cities in Britain which are apparently overrun with Islamic terrorists and illegal immigrants and rebuild them for good, honest, common sense Brits.

Shall we start with London?

#retakethestreets

 

[CXRAndy]

Going off that bizarre logic we should flatten the "sh!thole" cities in Britain which are apparently overrun with Islamic terrorists and illegal immigrants and rebuild them for good, honest, common sense Brits.

Shall we start with London?

#retakethestreets

Sounds reasonable dont you think

 

[BoldonLad]

Going off that bizarre logic we should flatten the "sh!thole" cities in Britain which are apparently overrun with Islamic terrorists and illegal immigrants and rebuild them for good, honest, common sense Brits.

Shall we start with London?

#retakethestreets

Every cloud has a silver lining, so they say 😂

 

[matticus]

This was the aim all along: make it uninhabitable so Israel could seize it. In a just world, they would be made to rebuild it, block by block, and hand it back to the Palestinians, whose land it is.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0rp4lrdv8ko

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Compare and contrast with this article from 2012: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-19913897

"
At one of the hotels he owns on Gaza's seafront, I meet Abdel Aziz Khaldi, one of the strip's richest men. Land trader Abdel Aziz Khaldi says the fast-rising population is pushing prices up.

To look at, he's not a flash character, more of a middle manager than a multi-millionaire.
But there are a few signs of wealth. He arrives in a brand new chunky looking BMW that, most likely, was also dragged into Gaza via the underground Egyptian route. Mr Khaldi is a land trader, a good business to be in right now.
"Land in Gaza City has gone up between 40 and 50% each year for the past few years," he says.

He says Gaza's fast-rising population and tiny size make land a good investment.
He adds that prices are highest in Gaza City, which people believe would be safer in the event of another war with Israel.
"

 

[briantrumpet]

Compare and contrast with this article from 2012: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-19913897

"
At one of the hotels he owns on Gaza's seafront, I meet Abdel Aziz Khaldi, one of the strip's richest men. Land trader Abdel Aziz Khaldi says the fast-rising population is pushing prices up.

To look at, he's not a flash character, more of a middle manager than a multi-millionaire.
But there are a few signs of wealth. He arrives in a brand new chunky looking BMW that, most likely, was also dragged into Gaza via the underground Egyptian route. Mr Khaldi is a land trader, a good business to be in right now.
"Land in Gaza City has gone up between 40 and 50% each year for the past few years," he says.

He says Gaza's fast-rising population and tiny size make land a good investment.
He adds that prices are highest in Gaza City, which people believe would be safer in the event of another war with Israel.
"

One might almost think that the last thing Israel wanted was a commercially successful Palestinian Gaza.

 

[Pblakeney]

One might almost think that the last thing Israel wanted was a commercially successful Palestinian Gaza.

FTFY.

 

[Psamathe]

Israeli soldiers speak out on killings of Gaza civilians
Israeli soldiers have described a free-for-all in Gaza and a breakdown in norms and legal constraints, with civilians killed at the whim of individual officers, according to testimony in a TV documentary.

“If you want to shoot without restraint, you can,” Daniel, the commander of an Israel Defense Forces (IDF) tank unit, says in Breaking Ranks: Inside Israel’s War, due to be broadcast in the UK on ITV on Monday evening.

Some of the IDF soldiers who talked to the programme requested anonymity while others spoke on the record. All pointed to the evaporation of the official code of conduct concerning civilians.

Generally I'm not impressed by ITV documentaries but if they are based around interviews incl. "on-the-record" then might be interesting/depressing.

 

[Pblakeney]

Someone is clearly going to have to explain to me what "ceasefire" means as my understanding is obviously wrong.

"Israel has destroyed more than 1,500 buildings in areas of Gaza that have remained under its control since the ceasefire with Hamas started on 10 October"

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0mxylxw48yo

 

[icowden]

Someone is clearly going to have to explain to me what "ceasefire" means as my understanding is obviously wrong.

Well it's clearly that they have stopped lobbing missiles and are now just bringing down unsafe buildings so that they can commence construction of Gaza-a-lago...

 

[Pblakeney]

Well it's clearly that they have stopped lobbing missiles and are now just bringing down unsafe buildings so that they can commence construction of Gaza-a-lago...

Fair.

 

[dutchguylivingintheuk]

This was the aim all along: make it uninhabitable so Israel could seize it. In a just world, they would be made to rebuild it, block by block, and hand it back to the Palestinians, whose land it is.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0rp4lrdv8ko

From that same article:
''Asked about the level of destruction in the area we visited, Israeli military spokesman Nadav Shoshani said it was "not a goal".

"The goal is to combat terrorists. Almost every house had a tunnel shaft or was booby-trapped or had an RPG [rocket-propelled grenade] or sniper station," he said.

"If you're driving fast, within a minute you can be inside of a living room of an Israeli grandmother or child. That's what happened on October 7."

More than 1,100 people were killed in the Hamas attacks on Israel on 7 October 2023, and 251 others taken hostage.

Since then, more than 68,000 Gazans have been killed, according to the Hamas-run Health Ministry there.''

The biggest mistake is that they didn't force Hamas to make due on their words immediately and forced them to disarm, oh and it was Hamas who said 60k deaths was not nearly enough i case you where wondering. (if Isreal has the same approach 7 October would have been way more bloodyer)

Going off that bizarre logic we should flatten the "sh!thole" cities in Britain which are apparently overrun with Islamic terrorists and illegal immigrants and rebuild them for good, honest, common sense Brits.

Shall we start with London?

#retakethestreets

#Billionaire'srowfirst

One might almost think that the last thing Israel wanted was a commercially successful Palestinian Gaza.

It's easy to be succesfull when in reality you're backed by and back terrorists

Someone is clearly going to have to explain to me what "ceasefire" means as my understanding is obviously wrong.

"Israel has destroyed more than 1,500 buildings in areas of Gaza that have remained under its control since the ceasefire with Hamas started on 10 October"

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0mxylxw48yo

And how many has Hamas killed what we don't hear from Western based media? The plan is death on arrival because it does not enforce to remove the fractions that insert hate,(like Hamas) either they arm Hamas's opposition just as much train them and then make it somekind of ''battle royale'' or they just made an Trump style deal, sounds good on the first page falls apart on the second due to corners being cut details being left out.

 

[CXRAndy]

UN votes 13-0 to accept Trump plan.

Hamas rejected it, says it won't disarm.

Their area will just get smaller, whilst fighting continues