It's a rout - is the old order on the way out?
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monkers
Squire
Oh dear MickleMuckle.
On one thread recently I had to explain to you that the data you presented in a meme was absolute nonsense.
But here you are doing the same again.
What is here is not true, it's a fallacy to attack Reform (a business venture that I despise with a passion by the way). I'm not here to defend them or celebrate their achievement, very far from it.
But the simple truth is staring us in the face is that the numbers stated for the other parties are the seats they have acquired across a number of years, having competed for a much larger number of seats than Reform have yet to compete in.
If the May1st elections been an across the board one for every seat the result would have been a disastrous rout (in terms of my politics).
As much as I hate to say it, what Reform achieved was remarkable. They won 41.45% of the contested seats on their first outing.
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Stevo 666
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Shock horror, I have to agree with you.
We have seen the usual reaction on here of playing down the scale of the success, claiming it is a 'flash in the pan' the usual snooty reaction that 'everyone whom voted for them is thick' (wonder if all these people were not thick when they voted for another party?).
Looking at this dispassionately it is a remarkable achievement and they seem to have some genuine momentum. I am not sure whether any other party can or will do anything to stop it for the time being.
Stevo 666
Well-Known Member
We're these Reform voters more intelligent when they voted for other parties?
Plus likely Trump will be gone and thus Labour might be able to do a big turnaround with UK/US relations, plus Farage and his Trump sycophancy might play a larger role in depending on damage Trump's done and how Farage distances himself.
I'm surprised Farage's Trump sycophancy didn't have greater prominence and given the UK widespread dislike for Musk/DOGY that Farage is now declaring his Councils need their own DOGY operations (and unions are already declaring they are ready for a fight) Reform hight have given themselves a "reputation" by next General election.
Ian
Stevo 666
Well-Known Member
You can certainly hope.
bobzmyunkle
Über Member
support for the party averaged 43% in wards where more than half of adults have few, if any, educational qualifications
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5yg467m8mjo
Of course not having educational qualifications doesn't necessarily make you thick, but it might make you more gullible.
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monkers
Squire
Same as research showed with voting Conservative, and Brexit. Older people (and I'm one of them) are not unintelligent, they had fewer opportunities for education, and contemporaneously to that, girls had fewer opportunities than boys, both in educational establishments, but also in society, and within their families. It was also boys needed as breadwinners and conscripts in times of war.
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cookiemonster
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Were not we’re.
Stevo 666
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Oops, looks like an autocorrect error. Now answer the question.
AuroraSaab
Shaman
Maybe the people lacking formal educational qualifications voted for Brexit because they perceived that they had seen fewer of the benefits of being in the EU than their educated counterparts, whilst perhaps disproportionately shouldering the disadvantages. The government, and media, could have put more effort into relieving them of those disadvantages because telling these people they wouldn't be able to retire to France obviously did sweet fa for the Remain vote
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Stevo 666
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It's quite amusing watching people rolling out the tired old clichés about voters being thick and/or uneducated when the results don't do the way that they want.
bobzmyunkle
Über Member
Do you claim the statistics are incorrect?
