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When you say that, I always imagine you sitting in a library wearing a smoking jacket and holding a cigarette in a holder. Potentially with a monacle.

Only on my days off, though I'm more of a pince nez man.
 

icowden

Shaman
True, and an unfortunate knock on is that there's rarely a good cinema drama film that isn't also sci fi or an actioner. There's exceptions, like Tar for example, but tv has become the home of exceptional drama writing.

What about The Whale? The Penguin Lessons? Conclave? The Brutalist? Anora? Bridget Jones: Mad about the Boy? The Knives Out films? Heretic?
 

Psamathe

Guru
Oh dear. I guess all those people suggesting Davie and co resignations were nothing to do with appeasing Trump may well have to rethink their position.

https://bsky.app/profile/rutgerbregman.com/post/3m6gzjfgg2k2b
Trump has won, BBC rolled over and doing what he wants without him even asking. BBC a complete waste of space now.

Edit: And listening to The News Agents podcast and apparently massive humiliation of Trump in the Comey & James trials being dismissed and BBC apparently not covering it. Mustn't upset Trump!
 
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Trump has won, BBC rolled over and doing what he wants without him even asking. BBC a complete waste of space now.

Edit: And listening to The News Agents podcast and apparently massive humiliation of Trump in the Comey & James trials being dismissed and BBC apparently not covering it. Mustn't upset Trump!

Although Gibb claimed he had no part in editorial decisions at the Jewish Chronicle, writers knew he was a regular 'presence'. I suspect that the same is true at the BBC (vide Goodall's comments about Gibb at the BBC).

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secretsqirrel

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Trump has won, BBC rolled over and doing what he wants without him even asking. BBC a complete waste of space now.

Edit: And listening to The News Agents podcast and apparently massive humiliation of Trump in the Comey & James trials being dismissed and BBC apparently not covering it. Mustn't upset Trump!

Was just about to post a link. A good listen.

 
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AuroraSaab

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What about The Whale? The Penguin Lessons? Conclave? The Brutalist? Anora? Bridget Jones: Mad about the Boy? The Knives Out films? Heretic?

B Jones is a comedy, Heretic was horror, Penguin Lessons I wouldn't call a serious drama, Knives Out is a detective. There are some out and out drama films but not as many as there used to be. Might be a reflection of the age of regular cinema goers too - they prefer action, super heroes, and horror (which is happily having a resurgence) to drama.
 

icowden

Shaman
B Jones is a comedy, Heretic was horror, Penguin Lessons I wouldn't call a serious drama, Knives Out is a detective. There are some out and out drama films but not as many as there used to be. Might be a reflection of the age of regular cinema goers too - they prefer action, super heroes, and horror (which is happily having a resurgence) to drama.

You did say drama that wasn't action or sci-fi.

There are also blurred lines. Oppenheimer and 1917 might fall between serious drama and action. Hidden Figures is another excellent drama type film.
 
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matticus

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B Jones is a comedy, Heretic was horror, Penguin Lessons I wouldn't call a serious drama, Knives Out is a detective. There are some out and out drama films but not as many as there used to be. Might be a reflection of the age of regular cinema goers too - they prefer action, super heroes, and horror (which is happily having a resurgence) to drama.
I'd mostly agree with that.
I don't think "Cinema" currently dislikes out-n-out drama; it's more that they've realised certain genres (and especially franchises) are much more lucrative. So they're making slightly less drama (and spending a lot less); we see far less publicity for it, and get far fewer screenings.

And of course - assuming everyone thinks exactly like me - your cinema 10bucks gets you more added value from big-screen spectaculars than from a Bridget Jones.
 
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Beebo

Beebo

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And of course - assuming everyone thinks exactly like me - your cinema 10bucks gets you more added value from big-screen spectaculars than from a Bridget Jones.

I think that’s the big issue. Everyone now has large screen TVs and the delay between when a film can be watched at home is now very short.
There really isn’t much reason to spend £50 at the cinema.
 

icowden

Shaman
I think that’s the big issue. Everyone now has large screen TVs and the delay between when a film can be watched at home is now very short.
There really isn’t much reason to spend £50 at the cinema.
Blimey your cinema is posh. Mine's £14.99 for an adult!

On a serious note - we do go to the cinema but as previously posted, it tends to be for occasion cinema. So big screen movies where you need full surround sound, a mahoosive immersive screen etc. Plus Cinemas have now upped their game so you can have a glass of wine / beer / cider and a freshly made pizza whilst you watch the film.

I do tend to go to the er... more upmarket cinemas around me. We do have a Vue in Staines which is as cheap as £6.99. We went to see the Barbie movie there. NEVER AGAIN. People were just feral. Letting small kids wander around, shouting at them. I saw one pink velour tracksuited, high ponytailed woman with three kids just filling them pick and mix bags using her hands. Bleurgh. She eventually got thrown out for failing to control any of her kids.
 

Pblakeney

Veteran
Blimey your cinema is posh. Mine's £14.99 for an adult!

On a serious note - we do go to the cinema but as previously posted, it tends to be for occasion cinema. So big screen movies where you need full surround sound, a mahoosive immersive screen etc. Plus Cinemas have now upped their game so you can have a glass of wine / beer / cider and a freshly made pizza whilst you watch the film.
Multiply that £14.99 by two. Now add on some of those drinks and nibbles. £50 is easily surpassed.

I do agree that some films need to be seen on the large screen. Most not so much though.
 
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Beebo

Beebo

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https://www.theguardian.com/media/2...s-bbc-of-censoring-his-reith-lecture-on-trump


The BBC has decided to censor a Reith lecture. They deleted the line in which Donald Trump is described as ‘the most openly corrupt president in American history’. The decision came from the highest levels within the BBC.

Unless the BBC can point to a US President who has been more openly corrupt.

I presume Nixon could be a candidate, but he wasn’t openly corrupt.
 
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2...s-bbc-of-censoring-his-reith-lecture-on-trump


The BBC has decided to censor a Reith lecture. They deleted the line in which Donald Trump is described as ‘the most openly corrupt president in American history’. The decision came from the highest levels within the BBC.

Unless the BBC can point to a US President who has been more openly corrupt.

I presume Nixon could be a candidate, but he wasn’t openly corrupt.

Covered upthread by @midlandsgrimpeur - not surprisingly, the person giving the lecture is pissed off. Still, it's given the phrase "the most openly corrupt US president" greater coverage, and exposed the BBC's cowardice (to Trump and/or Gibb).
 
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