Manchester synagogue attack

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winjim

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who would want to be an armed officer?
They had a terrorist with a bomb vest. They had to take him out.
Sadly someone was unseen behind the wooden door. It’s a split second decision.

I don't think we can take it as read that they "had to take him out". In cases where police have killed someone then every aspect of the operation should be investigated and questioned. I just don't think it's helpful, prior to that investigation, to act all surprised that someone got shot when it's your own officers waving guns around.
 

winjim

Welcome yourself into the new modern crisis
So the police are more dangerous than some possibly deranged, amateur terrorist.

Equally so in this case if you go by cold hard data. Of course their actions may have prevented additional fatalities so it's probably not that simple.
 
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CXRAndy

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Prosecute anyone British amd deport anyone not British,
 

Xipe Totec

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Prosecute anyone British amd deport anyone not British,

MAGAndy's Rules For Life. :okay:
 
I just don't think it's helpful, prior to that investigation, to act all surprised that someone got shot when it's your own officers waving guns around.
Well the point is not that someone got shot, if you attack and certain group with an knife with the clear intent to harm and or kill and appear to be wearing a bomb vest, a gun is kind of the only resort. You could argue they could have used asked nicely ''minster Terrorist we are very appalled by your behavior, please remove the bomb vest drop your weapons and go stand in the naughty corner..'' but somehow i don't think that would have had the preferred outcome.

And yes the better choice would have been an slightly more angled gun trajectory so any exit or missed bullet would have hit the walls instead of pierce the door and those behind. but it's often not that simple especially when you deal with some kind of terrorist with a bomb vest.
 

CXRAndy

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Lammy heckled. Bloody well deserved it, this government has enabled these islamists by recognising a state.
 

winjim

Welcome yourself into the new modern crisis
Well the point is not that someone got shot, if you attack and certain group with an knife with the clear intent to harm and or kill and appear to be wearing a bomb vest, a gun is kind of the only resort. You could argue they could have used asked nicely ''minster Terrorist we are very appalled by your behavior, please remove the bomb vest drop your weapons and go stand in the naughty corner..'' but somehow i don't think that would have had the preferred outcome.

And yes the better choice would have been an slightly more angled gun trajectory so any exit or missed bullet would have hit the walls instead of pierce the door and those behind. but it's often not that simple especially when you deal with some kind of terrorist with a bomb vest.

I thought I told you to f*ck off. Have you not done that yet?
 

Xipe Totec

Something nasty in the woodshed
Only those who consistently celebrate death of Jews in the UK

And your interpretation of that would be what? Anyone who opposes the Israeli military's relentless slaughter, statvation & snipering of a captive population struggling to survive in the bombed-out rubble of their former homes? Of course it is.
 
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