Mandy

[monkers]

Sure. It remains to be seen whether he's allowed to use the Contempt of Court Act to do this though. I know it's a cliché but it's already his Watergate moment.

It is not the case of being ''allowed to use the CCA'' - it is a case of parliament itself forbids disclosure. Sub Judice Rule means that parliament itself forbids disclosure even to itself when there are active court proceedings.

 

[spen666]

It is not the case of being ''allowed to use the CCA'' - it is a case of parliament itself forbids disclosure. Sub Judice Rule means that parliament itself forbids disclosure even to itself when there are active court proceedings.

which at present there are not active court proceedings
However, that is not the test to be applied,

 

[TailWindHome]

JRM claims that the government has a duty to respond to the Humble Address made in The Commons and to publish all documents relating to the Mandelson appointment. He says that because the Humble Address is to the King who sits above the Prime Minister that it can't be refused.

Wonder what he argued when Remain MPs were using the same conventions to get Brexit papers published...

 

[Shortfall]

Wonder what he argued when Remain MPs were using the same conventions to get Brexit papers published...

Dunno, look it up, he's got loads of stuff on Youtube

 

[monkers]

which at present there are not active court proceedings
However, that is not the test to be applied,

Fair enough. I would have done better to say legal proceedings. We both know that the proceedings are active.

I tend to think most people including Starmer and Charles are expecting that to be the case - opinions may vary.

The legal tests are around substantial risk and serious prejudice. If you like you can counter argue and demonstrate that these tests are not met or not met.

 

[monkers]

Dunno, look it up, he's got loads of stuff on Youtube

I wouldn't bother if I were you - it's not relevant to the Mandelson or Windsor cases.

 

[TailWindHome]

Dunno, look it up, he's got loads of stuff on Youtube

I don't wonder enough to do that

 

[monkers]

I think we have our answer ...

Hoyle told MPs today:

Members will be aware of comments in the media regarding the arrest of Lord Mandelson.
To prevent any inaccurate speculation, I’d like to confirm that upon receipt of information, that I felt it was relevant I pass this on to the Metropolitan police in good faith, as is my duty and responsibility.
It is regrettable this rapidly ended in the media. As this is a live investigation, members will understand … it would not be appropriate to make any further comment, and I’d like to caution members from doing so.

From live feed at The Guardian.

 

[Beebo]

The Speaker has advised that he passed information on to the Met before the arrest.
Apparently he spent a week in the BVI recently meeting various representatives so that seems to be where the rumours about Mandy leaving for the BVI seem to have come from.

 

[Shortfall]

I think we have our answer ...

Hoyle told MPs today:



From live feed at The Guardian.

Think that's specific to Hoyle informing the Met that Mandelson was a flight risk and not related to the release of documents.

 

[Shortfall]

I don't wonder enough to do that

But you wondered enough for someone else to tell you?
Do you think Starmer should release the documents?

 

[monkers]

Think that's specific to Hoyle informing the Met that Mandelson was a flight risk and not related to the release of documents.

I'm not seeing how you are not seeing the obvious.

 

[TailWindHome]

But you wondered enough for someone else to tell you?

Yes. That's precisely how much I wondered.

 

[Shortfall]

Yes. That's precisely how much I wondered.

So I think you were trying to make some spurious link between his Brexit views and whether he made any criticisms at the time of anything that may or may not have been unconstitutional on the Vote Leave side? And presumably you wanted to demonstrate that if he hadn't that it somehow diminished whatever he's saying about the law and the constitution as it relates to the release of the Mandelson files now? But you couldn't be @rsed to look it up so you made do with a lazy insinuation instead? Am I warm?
Anyways, so you think Starmer should release the documents in full as per the Humble Address?

 

[monkers]

Anyways, so you think Starmer should release the documents in full as per the Humble Address?

Good grief. I showed you that the matter is settled.