On the stretching of meanings

[matticus]

Its a bit like stretching the definition of what is a new topic so you can start yet another thread on the same / similar topic as existing threads

You mean the well-worn topics of friendly fire, George Orwell, dysphemism, and cycling vigilantes?
It's a fair cop!

 

[First Aspect]

Not sure when it actually originated, but, the term "friendly fire", always struck me as bizarre, what is "friendly" about being shot at?

It means don't shoot back.

 

[Rusty Nails]

Its a bit like stretching the definition of what is a new topic so you can start yet another thread on the same / similar topic as existing threads

People have differing views and meanings change as do interpretations over time

And governments conveniently change those meanings to suit their political aims. This thread is both relevant and appropriate because of the watering down of the definition of terrorism as a reaction to the Labour government’s need to appear ‘strong’.
YMMV.

 

[matticus]

And governments conveniently change those meanings to suit their political aims. This thread is both relevant and appropriate because of the watering down of the definition of terrorism as a reaction to the Labour government’s need to appear ‘strong’.
YMMV.

I did start the topic to discus the Actual Thing In The Title Of The Topic. (hence providing two examples* - one of which was in popular news coverage, so the congregation would be able to relate).
But OF COURSE if Spen wants to talk about the definition of Terrorism, it would be rude to prevent him!

*Others might be Nazi. Or Genocide. Or Woman??

 

[Rusty Nails]

I did start the topic to discus the Actual Thing In The Title Of The Topic. (hence providing two examples* - one of which was in popular news coverage, so the congregation would be able to relate).
But OF COURSE if Spen wants to talk about the definition of Terrorism, it would be rude to prevent him!

*Others might be Nazi. Or Genocide. Or Woman??

Or ‘Leftie’.

 

[glasgowcyclist]

Or ‘Leftie’.

Or ‘woke’.

 

[dutchguylivingintheuk]

I did start the topic to discus the Actual Thing In The Title Of The Topic. (hence providing two examples* - one of which was in popular news coverage, so the congregation would be able to relate).
But OF COURSE if Spen wants to talk about the definition of Terrorism, it would be rude to prevent him!

*Others might be Nazi. Or Genocide. Or Woman??

It's an leftish trick as old as time, it's just backfiring as for some reason a lot of lefties also support a gay hating, women hating freedom hating organization(called Hamas), but hey communism etc. are also popular amonsgt the left so it does make sense right?

 

[C R]

It's an leftish trick as old as time, it's just backfiring as for some reason a lot of lefties also support a gay hating, women hating freedom hating organization(called Hamas), but hey communism etc. are also popular amonsgt the left so it does make sense right?

Eh?

 

[First Aspect]

It's an leftish trick as old as time, it's just backfiring as for some reason a lot of lefties also support a gay hating, women hating freedom hating organization(called Hamas), but hey communism etc. are also popular amonsgt the left so it does make sense right?

I think you'd find the bogeyman a helpful concept. It's somewhere you can safely bundle together anything you don't like.

 

[glasgowcyclist]

It's an leftish trick

Really? 😂

Here’s one that’s decidedly not ‘leftish’: legitimate concerns.

 

[Pross]

The most vigorously discussed recent example being TERRORISM!!! It's clear that this word referred to violence used to achieve political means.
The government bolted on "criminal damage" (because it suited their needs); the unfortunate by-product of this is people say:
"They're terrorists - look at all the damage they did!"
"But they're non-violent ..."
"Doesn't matter! Look - terrorism includes criminal damage. It's their in black-and-white!!!"

I am against this! It's clearly being done to label someone in a way that suits your argument - a variation of guilt by association?

Another example - being discusssed in the other place - is Vigilante. I do not believe that anyone hearing that word envisions a chap standing in front of a car, asking them to reverse back down the No-Entry they've "strayed" down.
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=vigilante&udm=2&safe=active&ssui=on

Just to play along, would a bomb where plenty of notice is given so that everyone is evacuated count as terrorism or criminal damage?

 

[Pross]

It's an leftish trick as old as time, it's just backfiring as for some reason a lot of lefties also support a gay hating, women hating freedom hating organization(called Hamas), but hey communism etc. are also popular amonsgt the left so it does make sense right?

Is leftish a description of someone who has quite made it to the esteemed NCAP status of Leftie?

 

[spen666]

Just to play along, would a bomb where plenty of notice is given so that everyone is evacuated count as terrorism or criminal damage?

why would giving a warning so no one is hurt be relevant to whether something is terrorism or not?
It might change it from murder to something else, but wouldn't change whether it is terrorism or not

 

[Ian H]

why would giving a warning so no one is hurt be relevant to whether something is terrorism or not?
It might change it from murder to something else, but wouldn't change whether it is terrorism or not

Terrorism, in its broadest sense, is the use of violence against non-combatants to achieve political or ideological aims [Wiki]

 

[glasgowcyclist]

why would giving a warning so no one is hurt be relevant to whether something is terrorism or not?
It might change it from murder to something else, but wouldn't change whether it is terrorism or not

Look again at the thread title, and then the first four words of the post you replied to.