Reform, and the death of the Tory Party

[Psamathe]

Just in case anyone's under any illusion that Reform isn't Trumpism under a different banner.

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Whilst I don't approve (of prayers and National Anthem), we are not really a secular society. Worse, our governance is not even multi faith as Commons & Lords sittings start with Christian prayers (no multi-faith options), Bishops still get automatic seats in Lords (only UK and Iran appoint clerics to legislature, should we be proud of that?)

 

[briantrumpet]

Whilst I don't approve (of prayers and National Anthem), we are not really a secular society. Worse, our governance is not even multi faith as Commons & Lords sittings start with Christian prayers (no multi-faith options), Bishops still get automatic seats in Lords (only UK and Iran appoint clerics to legislature, should we be proud of that?)

Indeed we're not, but this is such obviously signalling and deliberate exclusion (as it is in the US) to make those who aren't Christian feel 'other' (it's the flags-on-lampposts in a different guise), I hope it's challenged.

 

[Psamathe]

Indeed we're not, but this is such obviously signalling and deliberate exclusion (as it is in the US) to make those who aren't Christian feel 'other' (it's the flags-on-lampposts in a different guise), I hope it's challenged.

True. But same applies to Commons and Lords. Difficult (or harder) to argue against when they are in effect copying what happens in Commons & Lords (who have a good number of non-Christian members).

 

[briantrumpet]

True. But same applies to Commons and Lords. Difficult (or harder) to argue against when they are in effect copying what happens in Commons & Lords (who have a good number of non-Christian members).

More of an argument to stop the practice in the HoP.

There was a 'bit of a discussion' over the choice of music for ceremonies that I'm involved in: when a chapel choir became part of the pre-ceremony musical 'show', the first year they did religious (Christian) music, but as the institution is for people of all faiths and none, the next year the music was changed to non-religious, which was the right call.

 

[Pross]

Just in case anyone's under any illusion that Reform isn't Trumpism under a different banner.

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Hooray, welcome to school assembly!

 

[Pblakeney]

Hooray, welcome to school assembly!

That was my first thought. The second was that you could only hear select teachers singing, and very few pupils.

Anecdotal story. At the end of secondary school myself and 3 others went on a Rotary Club youth exchange to Florida. At the farewell dinner they invited us up on stage to sing the national anthem. It soon became obvious that the Floridians in attendance knew the words past the first verse better than us.

 

[First Aspect]

Hooray, welcome to school assembly!

Our father, who farts in heaven. Hell odour be thy name. Thy Kingdom dung. Etc.

 

[Ian H]

Perhaps this should have gone in the political jokes thread.

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[briantrumpet]

Perhaps this should have gone in the political jokes thread.
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It might be enlightening if one or two of these allegations ended up in court, not least as it would be hard for the press to ignore them as 'Nigel being Nigel' and accepting another few million pounds in personal gifts totally unconnected to his political activities.

 

[Pblakeney]

He won a national election?

 

[briantrumpet]

He won a national election?

He has the biggest elections.

 

[midlandsgrimpeur]

He has the biggest elections.

Donald's are bigger (arf arf).

 

[Pblakeney]

Donald's are bigger (arf arf).

Oh no they're not!
According to Stormy, and assuming Fagash is average. 😉

 

[briantrumpet]

Glad to see that humour is no more sophisticated here than it was in the Carry On films.

BTW, just so you know, 'double entendre' is not a recognised phrase in French.

 

[midlandsgrimpeur]

BTW, just so you know, 'double entendre' is not a recognised phrase in French.

That's what they tell you Brian (arf arf).