Reform, and the death of the Tory Party

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Pblakeney

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Who knows? They lost a few local elections etc. to UKIP who were polling highly so probably for much the same reason Starmer started making right-wing comments after the recent elections. Say what you like about Farage but he is good at panicking the major Parties and pushing the narrative of UK politics

Oh, I give Farage full credit for managing to get what he wants, however much that I disagreed with it.
He's probably been more successful on that front than any PM in the last 10 years. All while mostly not even being an MP.
 

BoldonLad

Old man on a bike. Not a member of a clique.
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Who knows? They lost a few local elections etc. to UKIP who were polling highly so probably for much the same reason Starmer started making right-wing comments after the recent elections. Say what you like about Farage but he is good at panicking the major Parties and pushing the narrative of UK politics

This exactly.

As I have said before, in the area in which I live, Conservative voters are a scarce breed, but, Reform is rampant, it is not Conservative voters they are winning over.

Locally, Labour are in panic mode.
 
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Xipe Totec

Something nasty in the woodshed
In which case, why did Dave panic?

I don't think he panicked at all. He was high on his own hubris, he'd just 'won' the Scottish independence referendum, the AV referendum and a majority in the Commons and he - like pretty much everyone else, including Johnson & Gove - thought that Remain winning was a foregone conclusion. Doubtless also including the almost 30% of voters who stayed at home.

He assumed it would shut the whining Tory Eurosceptics up and put them back in their box, at least for the remainder of his term. I doubt if Farage & UKIP were more than a peripheral concern to him at the time.
 

Pblakeney

Senior Member
I don't think he panicked at all. He was high on his own hubris, he'd just 'won' the Scottish independence referendum, the AV referendum and a majority in the Commons and he - like pretty much everyone else, including Johnson & Gove - thought that Remain winning was a foregone conclusion. Doubtless also including the almost 30% of voters who stayed at home.

He assumed it would shut the whining Tory Eurosceptics up and put them back in their box, at least for the remainder of his term. I doubt if Farage & UKIP were more than a peripheral concern to him at the time.

If he was confident then there would have been no need to put the noisy rabble in their box. Put up or shut up. He was concerned.
That's my opinion. YMMV.
 

Psamathe

Über Member
After Reform's successes in last Council Elections, at Leicestershire county council

... Joseph Boam, a 22-year-old who has been made the deputy council leader and handed the adult social care portfolio, despite having previously expressed the view that “depression isn’t real”.

According to the anti-extremism campaign group, Hope Not Hate, an account appearing to belong to Boam had frequently retweeted and postedapparent praise for the misogynistic influencer Andrew Tate from a now deleted social media account.
from https://www.theguardian.com/politic...-uk-teenage-councillors-vital-public-services)

And Charles Pugsley, 19, has been made the cabinet member for children and family services.

Meanwhile in George Finch, 18, who has become the interim leader of the neighbouring Warwickshire county council (though apparently he has recently completed his A-levels).

Does experience matter when managing such crucial important services that impact so many in such significant ways?

Ian
 
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icowden

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And Charles Pugsley, 19, has been made the cabinet member for children and family services.
Meanwhile in George Finch, 18, who has become the interim leader of the neighbouring Warwickshire county council (though apparently he has recently completed his A-levels).
Does experience matter when managing such crucial important services that impact so many in such significant ways?
Good question. Another good question is "is the thought of politics now so poisoned that the only people willing to run for the council are youngsters?"

I ask this because in the last council elections the Conservative Candidate for our area was an 18 year old girl (she didn't win).
 
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briantrumpet

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It's all going so terribly well.

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Pross

Active Member
It's all going so terribly well.

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Well at least he didn’t need to go to A&E to get it removed.
 

Beebo

Guru
This is the same guy who assaulted his girlfriend.

Apparently he took out £70k of Covid loans which he wasn’t eligible for.

No news on whether they were paid back.

Reform vetting at its finest
 
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