"Snivelling Wokesters"

[spen666]

https://www.aol.com/articles/zealand-tells-snivelling-wokesters-accept-135056000.html


an interesting description, and not a turn of phrase I've heard before

 

[AndyRM]

Doesn't look like anyone's actually complained...

Like most people who chuck around the term "woke" he seems like a fairly angry old man shouting at a cloud.

 

[BoldonLad]

I am sure I could find out, if I tried, but, instead, I will just "wonder", what is the proportion of the population of NZ which is "indigenous" as opposed to "immigrant"?

 

[AndyRM]

I am sure I could find out, if I tried, but, instead, I will just "wonder", what is the proportion of the population of NZ which is "indigenous" as opposed to "immigrant"?

Wonder no more: it's about 20%.

 

[Beebo]

I am sure I could find out, if I tried, but, instead, I will just "wonder", what is the proportion of the population of NZ which is "indigenous" as opposed to "immigrant"?

NZ was the last large land mass to be populated. (Other than Antarctica)
It was only populated in 1350, so there really aren’t any indigenous people. They are all immigrants.

 

[BoldonLad]

NZ was the last large land mass to be populated. (Other than Antarctica)
It was only populated in 1350, so there really aren’t any indigenous people. They are all immigrants.

Everyday is a school day, I can add that to the long list of things I didn't know 😊

On the basis of the bold bit, does ANYWHERE (except possibly Africa) have "indigenous" people?

 

[Beebo]

Everyday is a school day, I can add that to the long list of things I didn't know 😊

On the basis of the bold bit, does ANYWHERE (except possibly Africa) have "indigenous" people?

I’m not sure what constitutes indigenous.

 

[BoldonLad]

I’m not sure what constitutes indigenous.

Nor me, which is why I doubt the point of returning to "indigenous" names, they are just the names assigned by the immigrants, before the latest immigrants assigned different names.

But, I don't live in NZ, and, don't intend to, so, my level of engagement is minimal.

 

[Pblakeney]

Nor me, which is why I doubt the point of returning to "indigenous" names, they are just the names assigned by the immigrants, before the latest immigrants assigned different names.

But, I don't live in NZ, and, don't intend to, so, my level of engagement is minimal.

Simple. Indigenous is "us". Immigrants are "them".

 

[secretsqirrel]

Simple. Indigenous is "us". Immigrants are "them".

This.

Like US where people of ‘no colour’ consider themselves as indigenous.

 

[C R]

This.

Like US where people of ‘no colour’ consider themselves as indigenous.

Some orange people also subscribe to that view.

 

[Ian H]

I’m not sure what constitutes indigenous.

Not having (forcefully) displaced an earlier population?

 

[matticus]

Not having (forcefully) displaced an earlier population?

So if you move in a thousand years later, but live peacefully alongside the first lot, then you too can call yourself indigenous?

<insert big smiley>

Googling for definitions [of indigenous] was very inconclusive. But wikipedia is very quick to say [about Maoris]:

Māori are the indigenous Polynesian people of mainland New Zealand. The Māori are descended from East Polynesian settlers who arrived in New Zealand in several waves of canoe voyages between roughly 1320 and 1350.[14]

 

[BoldonLad]

Not having (forcefully) displaced an earlier population?

Zulus, in South Africa?

 

[Ian H]

So if you move in a thousand years later, but live peacefully alongside the first lot, then you too can call yourself indigenous?

<insert big smiley>

Feel free to improve my tentative suggestion.