Starmer's vision quest

[BoldonLad]

It has been suggested that whilst the Palace of Westminster is being repaired, Parliament could go on tour. Maybe moving to some different places might educate some of the MPs...

Yeah, they could move to “the North” say, Luton 😂

 

[BoldonLad]

I don't think it's as binary as that...

? I think I must have been hallucinating

 

[Blazing Saddles]

Ok, that’s fine, we can’t fix it, let’s all just sit and whinge.

It’s ok, you are doing enough for all of us.

 

[CXRAndy]

Farage: Vote for Brexit - you'll be better off.
People: Well that didn't work. We're worse off? Who will we vote for to turn things around?
Farage: Vote for Reform - you'll be better off.
People: Yay! - can't see any problem here!

Nigel Farage was not involved in any of the negotiations post the referendum.

Guess who fooked it up The Tories and now Labour dragging UK back into EU legislative clutches

 

[TailWindHome]

Very true.

However, is the real concern not:

"how can a few families come to an unfamiliar country, find a job, find somewhere to live, and, do "better" than the indigenous population?"

There are 40 years of neglect and no simple answers here, there is lots to address here, and, IMHO, Reform is not the answer, but, Labour, Conservative, Lib-Dem, etc, have not been the answer either.

I could be wrong, but, I doubt telling people they are ignorant and racist will fix it either, no matter how loud it is shouted.

I neither asked that question, nor made that accusation.

 

[TailWindHome]

Nigel Farage was not involved in any of the negotiations post the referendum.

Guess who fooked it up The Tories and now Labour dragging UK back into EU legislative clutches

Farage stood down his candidates so Boris could implement his deal

 

[CXRAndy]

Farage stood down his candidates so Boris could implement his deal

Still didn't have any involvement in the negotiations.

 

[CXRAndy]

View: https://x.com/i/status/2023762307000791395

 

[TailWindHome]

Still didn't have any involvement in the negotiations.

Approved the deal though.

 

[CXRAndy]

Approved the deal though.

Still didn't do any negotiations or sign any deal. You can try as much as you like. Farage didn't do the deal.

All he did was start the ball rolling towards a referendum

 

[CXRAndy]

View: https://x.com/i/status/2024074322030088397

 

[TailWindHome]

Still didn't do any negotiations or sign any deal. You can try as much as you like. Farage didn't do the deal.

All he did was start the ball rolling towards a referendum

There's no 'trying' involved.

Farage read the deal, gave it the thumbs up and stood down the candidates

Now if you are arguing that he'd have done something different since then, that's fine, just outline what he'd have done differently

But, 'Farage didn't do the deal' is weak sauce

(Same for Starmer as it - who voted *for* the deal)

 

[Pblakeney]

Ok, that’s fine, we can’t fix it, let’s all just sit and whinge.

You don't have to whinge. 😉

 

[Pblakeney]

I understand now, I thought the perceived wisdom was that poverty, deprivation, unemployment was all the fault of the Musks, Bezos, etc of this world, all those wicked rich people. But, clearly not, it is people’s own fault and they should accept their place, without complaint.

You should buy some, you could be an absentee landlord 😊

Not their fault that things are as they are. Their fault if they do nothing about it.
I did at one point consider becoming a landlord instead of a pension. Couldn't do with the hassle.

 

[Bromptonaut]

If the vote in Red Wall etc was split between Tories and Faragistes Labour could win enough seats to keep Boris from a majority.

Farage stood his people down so the Tories would win.

As above he acted to facilitate BoJo's deal.

Trying to say 'nowt to do with me squire' went it went titzup is exactly the level of political dishonesty we'd expect.