Starmer's vision quest

[PurplePenguin]

iPhones already scan, categorise and index all photos. That's how the search works.

 

[bobzmyunkle]

Would you load a naked selfie on a work phone. No doubt someone will tell me that's different.

 

[Psamathe]

iPhones already scan, categorise and index all photos. That's how the search works.

Only if you use the built-in Apple Photos app (which is pretty rubbish). So in app limited to images you close to put there (and you ha. And that's a million miles away from continual scanning the screen on every update and detecting specific categories of image and not other similar images ...

And even if you do use hat specific app much of the automatic categorisation is based on metadata (location, title, etc.)

 

[the snail]

Would you load a naked selfie on a work phone. No doubt someone will tell me that's different.

Asking for a friend??

 

[PurplePenguin]

Only if you use the built-in Apple Photos app (which is pretty rubbish). So in app limited to images you close to put there (and you ha. And that's a million miles away from continual scanning the screen on every update and detecting specific categories of image and not other similar images ...

And even if you do use hat specific app much of the automatic categorisation is based on metadata (location, title, etc.)

I assumed it would just scan the files for changes. Plenty of things do that already and it's not processor intensive.

 

[Pblakeney]

You keep making these assertions without any sources (and MPs are far from the most tech reliable sources). But any sources?

My last post on the subject. I'll take her word over a random bloke on a cycling website.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0nq8lpk

 

[Psamathe]

I assumed it would just scan the files for changes. Plenty of things do that already and it's not processor intensive.

Scanning files for changes and reading the metadata is trivial. Analysing the image to recognise images of a sexual nature whilst not mistaking harmless family photos is non-trivial.

And doing that on the screen continuously with every screen update is a bug processing load. Additionally continually doing all that on every video frame whilst the camera is active even more processing.

 

[Psamathe]

I have listened to it and she's getting confused between in-specific app filtering of downloaded images vs continual scanning and analysis of every screen update as well as analysis of every video frame and every frame from the camera. She's thinking 'cos one app does limited less sophisticated analysis "it's already there" completely failing to understand the difference with what is now being talked about.

Parents do have the option to give their kids "The Fuse" a locked down phone for kids with SafeToNet's Harmblock. A very customised version of Android in a rather large handset (plenty of battery). Requires parents to utilise Parental Controls which is where many of today's issues come from (parents who "I don't understand it ..." and they give their kids free access to everything including. loading new apps like VPNs).

 

[icowden]

If you listen to Jess Philips on the subject (it was her originally pushing for it) then she says the evidence is that 90% of the pics come from the children themselves.

In which case wouldn't it be better to work on educating the children? I know my daughter's school are very hot on educating girls that they should not give in to peer pressure by boys for intimate photos and should be very clear with boys that they don't want intimate photos.

 

[briantrumpet]

Uh oh. Easy, expensive populism, as long as you accept that it's only actually popular with the women who didn't read their post, look at the news, or check for themselves for 20 years. Unless by 'compensation' he means extra Tesco Clubcard points.

 

[Psamathe]

Uh oh. Easy, expensive populism, as long as you accept that it's only actually popular with the women who didn't read their post, look at the news, or check for themselves for 20 years. Unless by 'compensation' he means extra Tesco Clubcard points.

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I should get compensation as well. I wasn't told of my increased retirement age. Should I be penalised because I checked my financial situation before I retired? That I used the very easy systems to get State Pension quotes of what I'd get from when should not penalise me relative to those who didn't use available checks.

 

[briantrumpet]

I should get compensation as well. I wasn't told of my increased retirement age. Should I be penalised because I checked my financial situation before I retired? That I used the very easy systems to get State Pension quotes of what I'd get from when should not penalise me relative to those who didn't use available checks.

Quite. It's ammunition to those who criticise Burnham for making hasty and easy promises. He'd be shredded on this one in no time at all. It wouldn't bode well for someone bidding to do a job that necessitates hard choices and pissing off vocal factions.

 

[Bromptonaut]

Uh oh. Easy, expensive populism, as long as you accept that it's only actually popular with the women who didn't read their post, look at the news, or check for themselves for 20 years. Unless by 'compensation' he means extra Tesco Clubcard points.

If HMG had simply said they'd equalise the pension age in N years time, publicised it properly and stuck to that DWP would be quite right in taking that line.

However the timescale was repeatedly jiggered about with and the process was overlaid with one to phase in a pension age of 66 for everyone.

At some stage those changes were not adequately publicised and there's a particular group born in, if I remember correctly, the mid to late fifties who were not given adequate time to assimilate the change and take steps, should they wish to do so, to mitigate the effect.

The case went to the Parliamentary Ombudsman who found in their favour and said they should be compensated. HMG has ignored that.

So in a nutshell the idea that all WASPI women are due a payout isn't right. But some of them are.

 

[briantrumpet]

https://www.ft.com/content/fc90116d-519d-4fa1-b418-ce3f49ead012?syn-25a6b1a6=1

Burnham’s signal that he is committed to a new multibillion-pound spending commitment if he becomes prime minister fuelled anger from Labour MPs and officials concerned about his attitude to the public finances.

One government figure decried Burnham’s intervention as “pathetic”, adding: “He can’t say no to anyone.”

An ally of Sir Keir Starmer likened Burnham’s economic agenda to that of hard-left former Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn, and argued that the mayor’s intervention would harm his chances of manoeuvring the prime minister out of Downing Street.

“Keir literally won by not being this version of the Labour party. This is the Andy Burnham that lost two leadership elections. For a reason. And will lose a third,” the person said.

 

[Dorset Boy]

If HMG had simply said they'd equalise the pension age in N years time, publicised it properly and stuck to that DWP would be quite right in taking that line.

However the timescale was repeatedly jiggered about with and the process was overlaid with one to phase in a pension age of 66 for everyone.

At some stage those changes were not adequately publicised and there's a particular group born in, if I remember correctly, the mid to late fifties who were not given adequate time to assimilate the change and take steps, should they wish to do so, to mitigate the effect.

The case went to the Parliamentary Ombudsman who found in their favour and said they should be compensated. HMG has ignored that.

So in a nutshell the idea that all WASPI women are due a payout isn't right. But some of them are.

Their State Pension dates were pushed back, not forward, giving them more chance t plan. Because they chose not do 'stay on top of things' related to their retirement, is their own fault.
It was grossly unfair that they had an earlier State Pension age than their male cohorts, especially given their longer average life expectancy.
If anyone is due compensation then it's all the men who had later SP ages than the women, prior to the equalisation of SPAs.