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bobzmyunkle

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Maybe, when “they” have dealt with the “mega rich”, they will come for the “rich”, then, the “comfortably off” 😂

They're after your slice of pizza.
(As in - 3 people, 6 slices of pizza. @CXRAndy* takes 5 slices, turns to one of the others and says 'watch out he's after your slice of pizza'.
* Ok the original had 'the capitalist '.
 
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BoldonLad

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They're after your slice of pizza.
(As in - 3 people, 6 slices of pizza. @CXRAndy* takes 5 slices, turns to one of the others and says 'watch out he's after your slice of pizza'.
* Ok the original had 'the capitalist '.

Hopefully, we (I) will not live long enough to find out who is after who's pizza 😂
 
As best I remember he said he aimed to give them 'enough so they can do anything, but not enough so they can do nothing.'
Considering his daughter recently started a bussiness we have a better insight and he said he was happy she self funded it as he would have needed to scutinieze the bussiness model if she would have come to hi, he did say he would have funded her anyway but it would have come with his terms. His dauther in the meantime was fair enough to admit she probably in big part because of her dad. (who wasn't involved just to be clear.)
I can't remember who said that a society having people in abject poverty, or having billions is a failing society.
probably some communistic thing ''you own nothing'' kind of thing ''all property is theft'' the kind of thing youngsters find great when they are still young but starting to see doesn't really work when then find a good job, women house children and stuff as they just become the thing they said was wrong.



It’s generational wealth that is a problem.
If you have $1billion then your great great great grand children will almost certainly be very wealthy too.
So it’s inheritance that is the problem. And how do you stop the mega wealthy from avoiding it.
The guy with a couple of million is likely to get stung by the 40% IHT rate, where as the guy with a couple of billion will be able to avoid most of it.
Yeah but it's easy to attack those who are mega rich because they are mega rich, but if we arrest all those mega rich for being mega rich, sure we won't have an Elon Musk, twittering or Jk Rownling doing the same but it was also lead to a huge brain drain, as the rewards for being better then the rest are prison.
But more importantly the main reasons for poverty and income inequality won't change at all. the top1% does not cause the problems of the bottom 80%.
the problem is the system, for example our housing system, take the average minimum wage, then go trough a real estate website find a normal(not fancy) house or flat and go to the bank's finance calculator and there you have one of the issues, no matter what you do it doesn't add up, houses are too expensive. now if the goverment would start a program to makes houses cheaper we would see an immidaite positive effect.
We just have banks like Santander complaining anfdthen you loot can blame it on brexit again.
 

icowden

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Yeah but it's easy to attack those who are mega rich because they are mega rich, but if we arrest all those mega rich for being mega rich, sure we won't have an Elon Musk, twittering or Jk Rownling doing the same but it was also lead to a huge brain drain, as the rewards for being better then the rest are prison.
I don't think anyone has suggested arresting and imprisoning the mega rich just because they are mega rich?

But more importantly the main reasons for poverty and income inequality won't change at all. the top1% does not cause the problems of the bottom 80%.
I think what is being suggested is that once you have got a billion pounds in the bank, that maybe you should get a pat on the head, a nice certificate saying "I won capitalism" and that future profits should be diverted to improving the lot of the bottom 80%.
 
I don't think anyone has suggested arresting and imprisoning the mega rich just because they are mega rich?
that's true it was jokingly beheading them instead, i think jailing them sounds a bit better but i sure hope the general understanding is both are wrong.

I think what is being suggested is that once you have got a billion pounds in the bank, that maybe you should get a pat on the head, a nice certificate saying "I won capitalism" and that future profits should be diverted to improving the lot of the bottom 80%.
First off it is never going to work, it the same idea as the ''universal basic income'' second if Bill gates or anyone else decides to donated a huge or small chunk of their money, it's still their choice, what you now suggest is taking other people's money, even if they are very very rich that's still wrong in my view.

Especially since the core cause of poverty aren't the ultra rich,(in europe at least) they are government decisions to not build enough social housing(both for rent and buy) and as a result sky-rocketing housing prices and the one benefitting the most being the finance sector that sponsors political parties.
 

Ian H

Legendary Member
I never joke about guillotines.

You're safe, as I'll bet you have no culottes.
 

Ian H

Legendary Member
Oxfam have an online shop. I have avoided Amazon when buying Tariq Ali's biography of Churchill. Unfortunately they don't yet have Ali's latest autobiography. I might have to stump up for a new tome.
 

glasgowcyclist

Über Member
While elsewhere deranged minds consider shooting unarmed civilians in the Channel, I thought I’d share some good news.

The charity I volunteer with has recently moved to premises which are substantially larger the previous. Whereas last year we were getting 200 people a week through the doors, it’s now handling 200 a day!

People who come to us find a place where they can relax and socialise with new friends, and get whatever support we can provide. We have a ‘shop’ stocked with donations from the wonderful public which is entirely free to those in need: clothing, household items, small furnishings, toys, games, fresh fruit & veg, and for those stranded in hotels with no cooking facility there’s food packs that they can just add boiling water to from a kettle.

There’s a play room for younger kids, where parents can leave their children to be looked after by vetted carers so they can have a few hours’ break, and a games room with pool, TV and games consoles for those a bit older. For adults there are classes in sewing, art, yoga, as well as a conversation club for people to practise or improve their English. Or folk can simply hang out, enjoying tea/coffee and snacks. It’s a very laid back place where everyone’s welcome.

There are things we can’t provide support for and in those cases we’ll signpost people to the nearest charity that can help.

Regardless of the circumstances and background of many, there’s always an air of positivity and it’s a joy to see the effects of even small acts of kindness each day. The general public is incredibly generous and it’s only through their support that the charity has been able to function and grow.

So if you’ve ever donated your time, skills, money or goods to such a cause, thank you! 🫂
 

Ian H

Legendary Member
While elsewhere deranged minds consider shooting unarmed civilians in the Channel, I thought I’d share some good news.

The charity I volunteer with has recently moved to premises which are substantially larger the previous. Whereas last year we were getting 200 people a week through the doors, it’s now handling 200 a day!

People who come to us find a place where they can relax and socialise with new friends, and get whatever support we can provide. We have a ‘shop’ stocked with donations from the wonderful public which is entirely free to those in need: clothing, household items, small furnishings, toys, games, fresh fruit & veg, and for those stranded in hotels with no cooking facility there’s food packs that they can just add boiling water to from a kettle.

There’s a play room for younger kids, where parents can leave their children to be looked after by vetted carers so they can have a few hours’ break, and a games room with pool, TV and games consoles for those a bit older. For adults there are classes in sewing, art, yoga, as well as a conversation club for people to practise or improve their English. Or folk can simply hang out, enjoying tea/coffee and snacks. It’s a very laid back place where everyone’s welcome.

There are things we can’t provide support for and in those cases we’ll signpost people to the nearest charity that can help.

Regardless of the circumstances and background of many, there’s always an air of positivity and it’s a joy to see the effects of even small acts of kindness each day. The general public is incredibly generous and it’s only through their support that the charity has been able to function and grow.

So if you’ve ever donated your time, skills, money or goods to such a cause, thank you! 🫂

The only downside being that such things are needed in this day and age.

Well done for making a difference.
 
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