The NACA Music, Art & General Creativity Thread

[briantrumpet]

Will have to look that one up, there were so many.

That is the sound track I most associate with Bach’s G String. Slow chilled jazz. Can‘t contemplate speeding it up at all.

I have never smoked so wasn’t damaged watching those ads as a kid.

The thing is that Loussier had consciously turned the piece openly into something else, but performers playing it 'as is' show no apparent desire to challenge the current orthodoxy. A similar fate had befallen the Adagietto from Mahler's 5th Symphony, which had also turned into a funereal dirge over the years (not least because of its use in Death In Venice), but it was expressly a love song to his wife, clocking in at about 7 minutes, not the common 10+ minutes it had become ordinarily. Thankfully there seems to have been some fight back on that one.

Anyway, bunker mentality for you.

 

[First Aspect]

This act of mercy has elicited an emotional response.

 

[briantrumpet]

This act of mercy has elicited an emotional response.

And that makes me almost ecstatic.

Like this >>> 😃🎉🥳

 

[briantrumpet]

There is a channel on Youtube called ‘Wings of Pegasus’ with a chap that does interesting analysis of well known singers.

Here is just one example…

That is interesting, though I'm not entirely surprised, given the quality of her voice & musicianship. My only caveat about his analysis is that he's taking equal temperament as his starting point, and the voice won't necessarily be restricted to that (and in fact can soind more in tune if it's not, in certain aspects).

 

[secretsqirrel]

That is interesting, though I'm not entirely surprised, given the quality of her voice & musicianship. My only caveat about his analysis is that he's taking equal temperament as his starting point, and the voice won't necessarily be restricted to that (and in fact can soind more in tune if it's not, in certain aspects).

Yeah you’re right. And I agree, Carpenter is an easy subject.

He has videos on quite a large range of singers and tears quite a few of them down, but I find the ones I’m drawn to watch are the ones most likely to be proven to have a great voice .

 

[briantrumpet]

Yeah you’re right. And I agree, Carpenter is an easy subject.

He has videos on quite a large range of singers and tears quite a few of them down, but I find the ones I’m drawn to watch are the ones most likely to be proven to have a great voice .

Ditto. Give me Annie Lennox singing Like An Angel, and I'm away.

 

[AuroraSaab]

She's kept her voice quite well over the years too. Haven't seen any very recent footage but Maddy Prior still sounded great well into her sixties.

 

[secretsqirrel]

Just got last night’s Last night of the Proms on in the background. That lot are not coy about flags.
Not seen any Palestinian ones (confiscated?) but most are EU flags

Another observation is that they have got to the jingoistic finale bit and they have fitted in a song each from NI, Scotland and Wales for a bit of balance/tokenism before doing the Rule Britannia shizz.

 

[briantrumpet]

Just got last night’s Last night of the Proms on in the background. That lot are not coy about flags.
Not seen any Palestinian ones (confiscated?) but most are EU flags

Another observation is that they have got to the jingoistic finale bit and they have fitted in a song each from NI, Scotland and Wales for a bit of balance/tokenism before doing the Rule Britannia shizz.

Notable also for being the last performance by the amazing Alison Balsom. She's only 47, but has had enough of the treadmill. (Reading between the lines, I wonder if there's another issue that she's keeping private.) I suspect she'll probably not pick up the trumpet again: trumpeters I know who have retired have sold off their instruments and been glad not to have the daily practice slog.

 

[secretsqirrel]

Notable also for being the last performance by the amazing Alison Balsom. She's only 47, but has had enough of the treadmill. (Reading between the lines, I wonder if there's another issue that she's keeping private.) I suspect she'll probably not pick up the trumpet again: trumpeters I know who have retired have sold off their instruments and been glad not to have the daily practice slog.

That’s why I put it on.

I really, really wanted her to either do a trumpet drop or fling it into the crowd.

 

[midlandsgrimpeur]

Notable also for being the last performance by the amazing Alison Balsom. She's only 47, but has had enough of the treadmill. (Reading between the lines, I wonder if there's another issue that she's keeping private.) I suspect she'll probably not pick up the trumpet again: trumpeters I know who have retired have sold off their instruments and been glad not to have the daily practice slog.

I was going to ask if you had seen this, I did assume you would have known she was retiring. I did think giving up a world renowned solo career just because of the grind of it seemed unusual.

I thought Louise Alder's 'My Fair Lady' medley was brilliant. Opera singers taking on musical or pop can often overdo it, but she really got it spot on.

 

[briantrumpet]

I did think giving up a world renowned solo career just because of the grind of it seemed unusual.

Nigel Kennedy reinvented himself in his 30s (I think), because he got bored of playing the same pieces over and over again, and, TBH, the trumpet repertoire for soloists is really limited, so maybe she's just got bored, and CBA to 'reinvent' herself, as she's got nothing to prove.

FWIW, for retirement planning purposes, brass players can plan their pension contributions to retire at 50, as far as HMRC are concerned (in other words, be able to stash away bigger chunks earlier). I'll be interested to see how long my friend lasts as principal horn of the Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra, as the stress of performing flawlessly publicly might after night must be immense, and must take its toll.

That said, some people last a very long time: the legendary Bud Herseth was principle trumpet of the Chicago Symphony Orchestra from 1948-2001, an absolutely extraordinary tenure, given how unsentimental orchestra managers are to principal players, as they can make or break an orchestra's reputation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolph_Herseth

 

[Pross]

I was going to ask if you had seen this, I did assume you would have known she was retiring. I did think giving up a world renowned solo career just because of the grind of it seemed unusual.

I thought Louise Alder's 'My Fair Lady' medley was brilliant. Opera singers taking on musical or pop can often overdo it, but she really got it spot on.

Thought she was great on that. Ironically I didn’t like her as much doing the opera style on Land Of Hope And Glory. I’m really not a fan of operatic sops anyway (probably best I don’t tell my sister though!).

I was pleasantly surprised with the Bohemian Rhapsody bit too having heard quite a few pop and rock classics get murdered by being given the BBC Symphony Orchestra treatment. Bill Bailey was really good too.

 

[Pross]

Nigel Kennedy reinvented himself in his 30s (I think), because he got bored of playing the same pieces over and over again, and, TBH, the trumpet repertoire for soloists is really limited, so maybe she's just got bored, and CBA to 'reinvent' herself, as she's got nothing to prove.

FWIW, for retirement planning purposes, brass players can plan their pension contributions to retire at 50, as far as HMRC are concerned (in other words, be able to stash away bigger chunks earlier). I'll be interested to see how long my friend lasts as principal horn of the Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra, as the stress of performing flawlessly publicly might after night must be immense, and must take its toll.

That said, some people last a very long time: the legendary Bud Herseth was principle trumpet of the Chicago Symphony Orchestra from 1948-2001, an absolutely extraordinary tenure, given how unsentimental orchestra managers are to principal players, as they can make or break an orchestra's reputation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolph_Herseth

Wonder why he decided to go by Bud instead of his given name?

 

[briantrumpet]

Thought she was great on that. Ironically I didn’t like her as much doing the opera style on Land Of Hope And Glory. I’m really not a fan of operatic sops anyway (probably best I don’t tell my sister though!).

I don't generally like operatic sopranos either (don't tell all my operatic soprano friends), and Kiri te Kanawa was a truly awful Maria on Bernstein's recording of West Side Story, but you do need a good voice for many of the musicals, and her voice seems to suit this very well. And she doesn't try to over-project since she's got a microphone to help.



(I expect that this Youtube link will get taken down as the person uploading it is very much breaching copyright, having grabbed it from iPlayer)