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To point this in the direction of some of the more quasi-philosophical musings some of us forum members like to indulge in, this raises an interesting point about memory and experience, particularly with holidays and fleeting visits to places we don't live. Does it enrich our lives as much as we think (given that many societies place great value on travel and the cultural experience).? I have very vague memories of most holidays, does that mean they were nice as an "in the moment" experience, or do we also subconsciously "consume" more of the experience that then influences our lives and outlook longer term, perhaps more than we think?

I kind of gave up on the "Oh wow!" holiday notion: if it's paradise, it'd just make everything else humdrum and I'd just be hankering to escape humdrum constantly. If it's just 'OK', was it worth all the effort and expense?

So I've ended up with the French Solution: somewhere that is paradisiacal enough that I can't get enough of it, and each time I go back it seeps to into my soul a bit more, and I dig into it a bit deeper.

And it's dead cheap.
 

midlandsgrimpeur

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Fwiw I'm no great traveller, and I tend to think what we can glean about life in another place as a tourist is minimal. But some of my travels have been informative

That's perhaps my general feeling and probably why I don't travel extensively. I enjoy a nice holiday and have some nice memories of different places and experiences but that is about the limit. As per @briantrumpet, if you actually travel to the same place regularly (or live there part of the year) then I can see how that would be a much more fulfilling approach as you are basically embedded in the place.
 
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PurplePenguin

PurplePenguin

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Were they any good though? 🤔

Yes. Sort of why I started the thread. It's something I like.
 
if you actually travel to the same place regularly (or live there part of the year) then I can see how that would be a much more fulfilling approach as you are basically embedded in the place.

I suspect it only really works if it's not a one-dimensional full-on touristy place, where the novelties would soon wear thin. So for me that's a range of sceneries and activities, decent food, and so on. And not a total PITA to travel to, as that novelty soon wears off too.
 

Rusty Nails

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To point this in the direction of some of the more quasi-philosophical musings some of us forum members like to indulge in, this raises an interesting point about memory and experience, particularly with holidays and fleeting visits to places we don't live. Does it enrich our lives as much as we think (given that many societies place great value on travel and the cultural experience).? I have very vague memories of most holidays, does that mean they were nice as an "in the moment" experience, or do we also subconsciously "consume" more of the experience that then influences our lives and outlook longer term, perhaps more than we think?

I must admit that when I was young my holidays and travels involved first of all me and my wife and they were very hedonistic rather than culturally stimulating. When the kids came along after about ten years they were family holidays, where the hedonism was mostly for the kids and where if they had a good time then we did.

It was only in later years that our holidays changed. I and my wife went on a lot of shorter European holidays, mostly to cities (she doesn't like long flights) while I went on quite a few walking breaks abroad and the UK either alone or with my son, and on frequent road trips across the west US with an old friend from our school days.

I have found many of my holidays memorable, mostly because of the scenery and the experiences, but I honestly cannot say any of them have influenced my future life other than giving me some good memories, nor has meeting the locals given me any great insights, other than, surprise surprise, there are good people and prats in every country.

The past few years my trips abroad have mainly been to Nice helping renovate the Victorian apartment my daughter and her partner have bought, but most of that time has been spent working on the apartment or in Leroy Merlin! From my experience French tradesmen are no more reliable than UK ones, and very often are Polish anyway. Interesting area, but I'm getting a bit fed up of Nice now.
 

midlandsgrimpeur

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I have found many of my holidays memorable, mostly because of the scenery and the experiences, but I honestly cannot say any of them have influenced my future life other than giving me some good memories, nor has meeting the locals given me any great insights

Very similar for me. I should add (in case I had not made it obvious), I don't think there is anything wrong with this at all. If a holiday is just an enjoyable getaway for a few days/weeks that is a perfectly good reason to have one, they don't have to impact/change our lives in any way.
 
Very similar for me. I should add (in case I had not made it obvious), I don't think there is anything wrong with this at all. If a holiday is just an enjoyable getaway for a few days/weeks that is a perfectly good reason to have one, they don't have to impact/change our lives in any way.

Yep, and it's different for me in not having to entertain children, just cycling friends who like to drink red wine, and aren't bothered about sandy beaches.
 
The past few years my trips abroad have mainly been to Nice helping renovate the Victorian apartment my daughter and her partner have bought, but most of that time has been spent working on the apartment or in Leroy Merlin! From my experience French tradesmen are no more reliable than UK ones, and very often are Polish anyway. Interesting area, but I'm getting a bit fed up of Nice now.

French tradespeople aren't to be rushed.
 
French tradespeople aren't to be rushed.

That's one thing I did take from my holidays, in multiple countries. People in this country appear to be addicted to the rat race.
Everything seems to be go, go, go. Little time for contemplation and taking time to smell the roses.
 
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