War with Russia
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Pinno718
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Pblakeney
Über Member
He really has no concept of what war is.
Other than avoiding it.
briantrumpet
Guru
He's stuck between a rock and a hard place: he can't withdraw without, erm, admitting defeat (and probably falling out of a high building), and he hasn't got the means to defeat a stubborn & resilient Ukraine, who, despite the nightly drone attacks, seem to be ready to carry on fighting back.
Still think that a few well-aimed big booms (Kerch Bridge, etc) could tip things into a fairly rapid Russian withdrawal. The Russian incursions into EU airspace has strengthened EU resolve.
Ianonabike
Member
It's the first place I look whenever I'm thwarted (and I archive reflexively myself). If nothing shows, as was initially the case this time, shave off anything that looks as if it's been added to the original URL.
The FT story just upthread: https://archive.ph/GVkN4
briantrumpet
Guru
Promising.
Pinno718
Über Member
I don't think it's 'strengthened'. We don't hear that much about what's going on in the backrooms. We know of the Baltic states gearing up and we know the UK sent troops over for military exercises.
I think that the moment Russia invaded Ukraine, western countries have paid heed to it and the reaction to these incidents is the manifestation of that preparation.
Combine all of the European countries that belong to NATO and are actively thinking about Russia aggression and you have a pretty powerful body - air defence systems, fighter jets, ordnance, intelligence...
Pinno718
Über Member
I do that too but today, i'm feeling lazy.
Psamathe
Veteran
(Claiming no expertise) I wonder if Putin might be trying to create a greater "enemy". Forcing NATO to talk tough towards Russia might allow Putin to start highlighting NATO's "aggressive stance towards Russia", etc., etc.
Pinno718
Über Member
He can spout that rhetoric ad nauseum but who will listen?
Psamathe
Veteran
Russians? (they mostly don't get to hear anybody else's story).
Pinno718
Über Member
So what your saying is that Putin's rhetoric elicits 0 material change?
Psamathe
Veteran
I suspect to a degree he needs to maintain Russian public support and being able to demonstrate NATO as a "threat" might help him spin that story.
BoldonLad
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If a Russian aircraft were to be downed, wouldn’t that provide wonderful copy, in a country where news media are reasonably tightly controlled?
Poke enough, and, sooner or later there will be an “incident” be it an accident or deliberate.
Psamathe
Veteran
Or, in a country where information and "truth" are strictly controlled and any talk contrary to the official line likely means prison, it might get rephrased into an unprovoked attack over Russian territory ...
