briantrumpet
Timewaster
A 'win-win' for Trump: he gets to bypass Canada, and he gets to support Putin proxy Belarus. What's not to like? I'm sure Congress will be delighted to sit on its hands and keep quiet.
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Pblakeney
Shaman
Pinno718
Squire
The school bully saying that because Carney isn't doing what he wants, he's going to make new 'friends'.
Anyway, getting Potash from Land locked Belarus maybe somewhat tricky. South would be rail/road through Ukraine and shipping in the Black sea is a no-no. No shipping company will entertain such ideas. I think Ukraine might have some amount of leverage too.
East is Russia and then what - through lands that are on the frontline and the Ukrainians are taking out trucks to the tune of 30 to 35 per day and there will be no discrimination. West is Poland... another political/physical obstacle.
North: Lithuania/Latvia neither are friends with Belarus and anyway, the Baltic could be a long term issue: Denmark and the EU are planning to blockade the pinch point - Skagen/Gothenburg from Russian and Russian affiliate vessels - which would be a target anyway.
Given all the physical and political obstacles, I think this is bollox. Even with conducive logistics, Belarus is a long way from Canada.
Some interesting articles for Donnie to read. However, he's still working through Cat in the Hat (I bet the Canadians are laughing because Potash is in high demand).
What Potash Reveals About Freight Costs Across the Fertilizer Industry
https://www.stonex.com/en-gb/insigh...freight-costs-across-the-fertilizer-industry/[Carnegie Politika] A little bit of a Political minefield.
The lifting of U.S. sanctions on Belarusian potash in December 2025 leaves Lithuania facing the dilemma of whether it should again allow the fertilizer to be exported through its territory. There was a time when this transit generated millions of dollars for Lithuanian railways and the country’s port in Klaipeda. But Vilnius blocked Belarusian potash from its territory after contested Belarusian leader Alexander Lukashenko brutally crushed opposition protests in 2020.
So, we see the window of opportunity for making money by lifting certain sanctions. More grift but it's heavily dependent on a myriad of complications to overcome.
Ian H
Pharaoh
Ukraine's military has a real Nazi problem
In their zeal to deconstruct Russian propaganda, Western elites have tried to hide the fact there are Third Reich extremists among Kyiv's ranks.
https://responsiblestatecraft.org/nazis-in-ukraine-military/
In their zeal to deconstruct Russian propaganda, Western elites have tried to hide the fact there are Third Reich extremists among Kyiv's ranks.
https://responsiblestatecraft.org/nazis-in-ukraine-military/
Psamathe
Squire
Belarus, a landlocked country, has to ship the stuff to the US eg through the EU? or through Russia? or air freight?
But maybe shipping is academic given that Lukashenko has said "Even if we wanted to supply [potash] to other, Western markets, we simply do not have those volumes — everything is contracted" (https://thehill.com/policy/international/6102469-trump-lukashenko-potash-deal-clash/)
Another "smoke and mirrors" and Canada will know that.
Ian H
Pharaoh
Ukraine's military has a real Nazi problem
In their zeal to deconstruct Russian propaganda, Western elites have tried to hide the fact there are Third Reich extremists among Kyiv's ranks.
https://responsiblestatecraft.org/nazis-in-ukraine-military/
In their zeal to deconstruct Russian propaganda, Western elites have tried to hide the fact there are Third Reich extremists among Kyiv's ranks.
https://responsiblestatecraft.org/nazis-in-ukraine-military/
Pinno718
Squire
An interesting summary.
We'll have to see what happens at the end of this conflict. Ambitions of EU membership may be compromised for example.
It's not clear is it? The Ukrainians fought against the 3rd Reich - 7m of them. Whereas, 300k sided with Germany. That's probably the same sort of percentages of Nazi collaboration/sympathy per capita as France or other allies, UK even.
But do you think we should not support Ukraine because of a fascistic element that accounts for a small percentage of their forces?
Ukraine’s Western partners have made their own bargain. They, too, depend on Ukrainian manpower to weaken Russia. And so they tolerate extremists inside Ukraine’s armed forces as long as those extremists continue fighting. More than that, they remain largely silent about the ideology and symbols involved, because acknowledging them would mean admitting an uncomfortable truth — that the neo-Nazi problem in Ukraine is not simply a Kremlin invention.
Psamathe
Squire
Reminds me a bit of the Khmer Rouge. Only 3 leaders ever sentenced and even today many mid-level Khmer Rouge officers still walking free and in government positions.
UglyWithaSidePart
Active Member
Oh gawd, gramps has discovered AI.
briantrumpet
Timewaster
SI ("Super Intelligence"), please!!
Mr Celine
Über Member
A former colleague maintained that his father had NOT fought for the Germans but rather had fought against the Russians, mainly due to Stalin's atrocities in the 1930s.
Ian H
Pharaoh
It's too late, Milzy, the microchips are already in your bloodstream. You're doomed. DOOMED!
