War with Russia

[Rusty Nails]

Seen as this thread has almost dropped off the front page, I thought I would bump it up given the recent strikes on apartment blocks and 2 busses as well as other strikes in Ukraine simply targeting civilians. Such is the nature of Putin's terrorism and lack of humanity in his desperate attempt to preserve his personal empire and nefarious ambitions.

However, Russia is suffering and with the impending winter, will suffer even more. We just hope it breaks soon.

• September totals for logistics: 770 trucks struck.
• Ormsk refinery struck in Siberia !? 2700km's from Ukraine.
• Yandex data centre in Sesovo struck - this serves as Cloud storage and website server for many many businesses. This was in retaliation to Russian targeting of Ukrainian technology. Ukraine vows to continue it's 'Digital detox'.
• Russian bonds facing massive interest rates on loans used to purchase them. The central bank printed money which was then given to banks so and the banks were ostensibly forced into purchasing govt, bonds... that should end well.
• Russian property market in freefall
• Despite a massive reduction in Russian oil export revenue, Russia is managing to prop up it's economy with global oil price hike. Russian Ural crude is @ $129 per barrel from just $49 per barrel pre Iran conflict. Thanks Trump you f*cking idiot.
• Zelensky meets with Ed Miliband and makes open plea to Musk as Starlink is not available to Ukraine to assist in repelling drone strikes. Musk doesn't care, he's a c*nt.

I'll bet all that is a huge comfort to the citizens of Kyiv and other Ukraine towns and cities as they have more people killed.

Russia has a long way to go before it gives up this war, if it ever does.

 

[Pinno718]

I'll bet all that is a huge comfort to the citizens of Kyiv and other Ukraine towns and cities as they have more people killed.

Russia has a long way to go before it gives up this war, if it ever does.

Putin has no intention of giving up this war but can he sustain the financial and human cost*?

*In simple terms of personnel to fight, absorb drone cost.

 

[Pblakeney]

Putin has no intention of giving up this war but can he sustain the financial and human cost*?

*In simple terms of personnel to fight, absorb drone cost.

He can.
Up to the point when the Russians decide that they cannot.

 

[UglyWithaSidePart]

Ordinary Russians are just starting to feel confident in expressing their unease, seen a few of them on Steve Rosenberg's videos.

 

[Rusty Nails]

Putin has no intention of giving up this war but can he sustain the financial and human cost*?

*In simple terms of personnel to fight, absorb drone cost.

it's Russia who has to sustain the financial and human cost, not Putin. As long as Putin can keep them believing the West wants to destroy them they will sustain it. They have a long history of stoicism.

 

[C R]

Putin has no intention of giving up this war but can he sustain the financial and human cost*?

*In simple terms of personnel to fight, absorb drone cost.

Unfortunately, the question is, can the Ukrainians?

 

[briantrumpet]

At last Trump has said he'll fund the war.

For the Russians.

Mind you, it might leave Russians short, if Ukraine can keep hitting the refineries.

 

[Pblakeney]

At last Trump has said he'll fund the war.

For the Russians.

Mind you, it might leave Russians short, if Ukraine can keep hitting the refineries.

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This announcement confirms that the US is fighting against the rest of the western world.
All for one man's mid-term election ego.

PS - In all seriousness, all those thinking WWIII is hyperbole better start paying attention.

 

[Pblakeney]

This announcement confirms that the US is fighting against the rest of the western world.
All for one man's mid-term election ego.

PS - In all seriousness, all those thinking WWIII is hyperbole better start paying attention.

Another random malt whisky induced thought....
A worldwide emergency that means the mid-terms are cancelled/postponed? At this point it is not outside the realms of possibility.

 

[Pblakeney]

At last Trump has said he'll fund the war.

For the Russians.

Mind you, it might leave Russians short, if Ukraine can keep hitting the refineries.

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Turns out that the "deal" is dead in the water already. Makes sense when you look at it from this (and Pinno's?) perspective.

• The deal looks like a publicity stunt, because Russia has no diesel to spare. Russia is in the middle of a massive diesel shortage of its own, driven by sustained Ukrainian strikes on its refineries. That shortage is exactly why the Kremlin banned diesel exports in July and extended the ban through the end of October. A country rationing its own fuel has no real surplus to ship abroad, which makes this less a supply deal than a conniving bid to cast Russia as America’s helper. The likely outcome is that Russia sends a few hundred thousand tons, if that, and pockets a sanctions waiver and a public relations win in return.

 

[C R]

Turns out that the "deal" is dead in the water already. Makes sense when you look at it from this (and Pinno's?) perspective.

• The deal looks like a publicity stunt, because Russia has no diesel to spare. Russia is in the middle of a massive diesel shortage of its own, driven by sustained Ukrainian strikes on its refineries. That shortage is exactly why the Kremlin banned diesel exports in July and extended the ban through the end of October. A country rationing its own fuel has no real surplus to ship abroad, which makes this less a supply deal than a conniving bid to cast Russia as America’s helper. The likely outcome is that Russia sends a few hundred thousand tons, if that, and pockets a sanctions waiver and a public relations win in return.

But it helps Russia because Trump can blame Ukraine for the diesel prices. This comes back to the fact that the question is how much longer can Ukraine hold without proper help.

 

[Pblakeney]

But it helps Russia because Trump can blame Ukraine for the diesel prices. This comes back to the fact that the question is how much longer can Ukraine hold without proper help.

Want to take it further?
Donnie gives Putin money for oil. Putin uses that money to attack Ukraine. Ukraine buys defences from Donnie. Donnie buys oil from Putin…
Always about the money.

 

[C R]

Want to take it further?
Donnie gives Putin money for oil. Putin uses that money to attack Ukraine. Ukraine buys defences from Donnie. Donnie buys oil from Putin…
Always about the money.

So Ukraine funds Russia...

 

[Pblakeney]

So Ukraine funds Russia...

If the US is selling to Ukraine then yes.
Welcome to Donnieland!

 

[Pblakeney]

...even worse. We are funding Putin.
UK -> Ukraine -> US -> Putin.