Yaxley-Lennon locked up

[Psamathe]

I think the terrorist charges were somewhat overblown.
But why was he driving someone else’s Bentley and had £13k in cash in the vehicle?
Can that be explained?

In our society under our laws does it need to be explained?

 

[Beebo]

In our society under our laws does it need to be explained?

You need to declare anything above £10k to customs.

 

[CXRAndy]

You need to declare anything above £10k to customs.

It wasn't customs it was border police. I dont think he passed through the port after being accosted

 

[C R]

You need to declare anything above £10k to customs.

What is strange to me is that they decided to pursue the silly terrorism charge, while the failure to declare the cash seems to have been overlooked.

 

[CXRAndy]

What is strange to me is that they decided to pursue the silly terrorism charge, while the failure to declare the cash seems to have been overlooked.

Where does it say he didn't declare it? For all we know he had already done so. It was reported too the car was a Bentley. Is that relevant too.


Just checked you can declare the movement of cash upto 72hours before leaving by phone or online, reference number will be given to show the customs if stopped

Many many years ago I took nearly £20k in cash abroad to buy a vehicle.

 

[Pblakeney]

You need to declare anything above £10k to customs.

I thought that only applied a single transfer?
Accumulated total is undeclared.

 

[PurplePenguin]

I think savvy journalists ensure that they don't know their passwords when crossing borders. That presumably irritates the terrorism police, but also shows what a ludicrous law it is to begin with.

 

[Psamathe]

You need to declare anything above £10k to customs.

One company I worked for remotely (I lived in France and a UK company) one of the directory seriously proposed paying me once every 6 months when he came over to visit friends over in France - we'd meet in a car park somewhere and he'd give me a briefcase containing cash. Apparently banks don't ask questions if cash amounts are less than £15k ...

 

[Psamathe]

You need to declare anything above £10k to customs.

But if you fail to declare it they can seize it, not start fishing trips through your phone under terrorism laws.

(Gosh I hate defending Yaxley Lennon)

 

[Psamathe]

I think savvy journalists ensure that they don't know their passwords when crossing borders. That presumably irritates the terrorism police, but also shows what a ludicrous law it is to begin with.

Upload phone backup to cloud before getting to border and reload it from cloud after passing border.

Not gone that far myself but I have removed some content from my phone prior to some border crossings.

But it is ludicrous as it's so easy to encrypt anything that most people whose phones will be of interest to the Police will have encrypted that content go giving Police the phone PIN just gives them !D£T%1-*#b¶•se¡L:'|IU]]e4% etc.

But they can't just take your phone and demand the PIN. They have to give you written notice inder Section 49 of the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000. Written permission must be obtained from a Judge or a District Judge for the giving of a notice under section 49, this then provides “appropriate permission”. And they can only do that in the interests of national security or for the purpose of preventing or detecting crime or if it is in the interests of the economic well-being of the UK.

 

[bobzmyunkle]

Co-opting the cross? Isn't it a few millennia too late to be concerned about that.

a group of Church of England bishops joined leaders from other Christian denominations to condemn what they called the "co-opting of the cross"

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy4p42kydx9o

 

[icowden]

Upload phone backup to cloud before getting to border and reload it from cloud after passing border.

Good luck doing that in North Korea or China.

 

[CXRAndy]

Just take your old phone out of the drawer put the sim in it away you go.

 

[PurplePenguin]

Upload phone backup to cloud before getting to border and reload it from cloud after passing border.

Not gone that far myself but I have removed some content from my phone prior to some border crossings.

But it is ludicrous as it's so easy to encrypt anything that most people whose phones will be of interest to the Police will have encrypted that content go giving Police the phone PIN just gives them !D£T%1-*#b¶•se¡L:'|IU]]e4% etc.

But they can't just take your phone and demand the PIN. They have to give you written notice inder Section 49 of the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000. Written permission must be obtained from a Judge or a District Judge for the giving of a notice under section 49, this then provides “appropriate permission”. And they can only do that in the interests of national security or for the purpose of preventing or detecting crime or if it is in the interests of the economic well-being of the UK.

Forgot to reply to this, they can ask for the passwords and it is an offence to not provide them if you are able to. So the solution used by journalists is to ensure that they don't know the password when they cross the border e.g. get friend to encrypt it, then call them when you are across the border.

 

[CXRAndy]

Forgot to reply to this, they can ask for the passwords and it is an offence to not provide them if you are able to. So the solution used by journalists is to ensure that they don't know the password when they cross the border e.g. get friend to encrypt it, then call them when you are across the border.

How can you, you dont know the password to unlock the phone 🤔