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Ian H

Shaman

Some years ago I received what I suspect was an audio-typed letter from an investment firm. It advised that investments could go down as well as up, and suggested that I should consult my 'sisters' before applying.
 
Some years ago I received what I suspect was an audio-typed letter from an investment firm. It advised that investments could go down as well as up, and suggested that I should consult my 'sisters' before applying.

Could be good advice.
My sister is a financial adviser. 😉
 
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briantrumpet

briantrumpet

Pharaoh
One of the interesting aspects of that piece is the counterintuitive bit about the advantage of setting the 'thinking level' to minimum:

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It is also rather amusing that there appear to be several 'transcription errors' in this piece (e.g. see "The first think" above, and "institution" for "intuition" in the following paragraph). So this does belong in an AI Fail thread.
 
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briantrumpet

briantrumpet

Pharaoh
"We've invented these things that people should be putting in their mouths and 'smoking', otherwise we'll have to close all the cigarette factories we've built."

I know the headline here is not their quote, but that's the implication, aided and abetted by the tech oligarchs who want to make human intelligence subservient to their machines, instead of using the tech as a useful tool where appropriate.

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PurplePenguin

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Co-pilot says it is possible.
 

Pross

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Not a fail but a bit of a dilemma. I've been experimenting with using Copilot to help process some of my photos as my skills in Lightroom still need a lot of work. For me, if I can get a photo to look how I want without adding anything to the data captured by the camera then that is an acceptable part of processing and not creating anything fake even if AI is assisting in the process. My problem is knowing whether Copilot is just doing that processing using the data available or is taking information from elsewhere and applying it to my photo at which point it has gone beyond assisting the processing workflow. As it is working from a JPG I'm dubious as to whether it is only using my photo data. Here's an example of an image that I processed myself that I wasn't overly happy with and what Copilot did with me typing in the edits I wanted to acheive (enhancing the Milky Way core, noise reduction, star reduction and colour / tone adjustments). All of these can definitely be achieved from the information in the original RAW files by someone with more skill than me but I'm not convinced the JPG will allow it. Next time I do a shoot I might see what Copilot can do with the RAW data.
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I quite like the result apart from the grass is too green in the edited image and it's probably a bit over-exposed. What I've found with Copilot is it does a few good edits but then you ask for another subtle change and rather than just adjusting what you want it messes the whole thing up. This isn't just when editing photos, I used it to create a poster last week and was really good with suggestions of tweaks and additions but then it would often come to a very minor request to tweak something and ruin the whole thing. I learned to download the image when it was nearly there and then start a fresh process which seemed to help.
 
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PurplePenguin

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You just inspired me to ask AI to fix one of my old negative scans. I don't have the photo editing skills and all the scans were a bit disappointing. Anyway, AI result was pretty impressive.
 

Pross

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Having posted that I can now see some fails. The most obvious is that it has created a gap between the points of the Three Cliffs that plainly isn't there on the original. It also seems to have taken liberties in creating a much more defined path on the cliff which all adds to my suspicion that it has done its own thing with the sky rather than just assisting with the processing. It's pretty annoying as it should have been able to do what I asked without making changes that weren't requested.
 
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Not a fail but a bit of a dilemma. I've been experimenting with using Copilot to help process some of my photos as my skills in Lightroom still need a lot of work. For me, if I can get a photo to look how I want without adding anything to the data captured by the camera then that is an acceptable part of processing and not creating anything fake even if AI is assisting in the process. My problem is knowing whether Copilot is just doing that processing using the data available or is taking information from elsewhere and applying it to my photo at which point it has gone beyond assisting the processing workflow. As it is working from a JPG I'm dubious as to whether it is only using my photo data. Here's an example of an image that I processed myself that I wasn't overly happy with and what Copilot did with me typing in the edits I wanted to acheive (enhancing the Milky Way core, noise reduction, star reduction and colour / tone adjustments). All of these can definitely be achieved from the information in the original RAW files by someone with more skill than me but I'm not convinced the JPG will allow it. Next time I do a shoot I might see what Copilot can do with the RAW data.
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I quite like the result apart from the grass is too green in the edited image and it's probably a bit over-exposed. What I've found with Copilot is it does a few good edits but then you ask for another subtle change and rather than just adjusting what you want it messes the whole thing up. This isn't just when editing photos, I used it to create a poster last week and was really good with suggestions of tweaks and additions but then it would often come to a very minor request to tweak something and ruin the whole thing. I learned to download the image when it was nearly there and then start a fresh process which seemed to help.

In my view AI has taken the image too far. Not that my opinion is of any value.
A lot of the exposure and dynamic range could be improved by using RAW files though.
 
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