Badenoch's (Lack Of) Vision Quest

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Since she has now run out of back benchers, is she now occupying all shadow cabinet positions?
 

laurentian

Regular
Breaking News: Badenoch sacks Jenrick for "planning to defect causing as much damage as possible to Conservatives"
 

midlandsgrimpeur

Well-Known Member
At what point do Reform become the Tory party, and surely that puts off Reform voters as they all rejected the Tories at the last election?

Plus, Nige likes to be in sole charge, cannot see him juggling a lot of big tory ego's who will all want to oust him at some point (Jenrick especially). I can't help thinking all the defections are going to backfire spectacularly.
 

TailWindHome

Active Member
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At what point do Reform become the Tory party, and surely that puts off Reform voters as they all rejected the Tories at the last election?

Plus, Nige likes to be in sole charge, cannot see him juggling a lot of big tory ego's who will all want to oust him at some point (Jenrick especially). I can't help thinking all the defections are going to backfire spectacularly.

If Badenoch had any sense (haha, yes, I know), or if the three remaining sensible Tories (haha, yes, I know that too) could seize the moment of Jenrick's departure, they could drag the Tory Party back to a pragmatic pro-business, pro-EU position, which served them electorally pretty well until the 'bastards' staged their Brexit coup with the aid of Chancer Johnson.
 

midlandsgrimpeur

Well-Known Member
If Badenoch had any sense (haha, yes, I know), or if the three remaining sensible Tories (haha, yes, I know that too) could seize the moment of Jenrick's departure, they could drag the Tory Party back to a pragmatic pro-business, pro-EU position, which served them electorally pretty well until the 'bastards' staged their Brexit coup with the aid of Chancer Johnson.

That is the only sensible option, but common sense and reasoning has been strangely absent from the Tory Party for some a good while. You are right though, this is the perfect moment for a complete reset (and possibly the last chance they will have for some years?). If anyone at HQ had any political acumen, they would abandon the Reform tribute act, start trying to claw back those that defected to the Lib Dems and try and bring back some of the old big hitters that Johnson/Cummings purged.
 
That is the only sensible option, but common sense and reasoning has been strangely absent from the Tory Party for some a good while. You are right though, this is the perfect moment for a complete reset (and possibly the last chance they will have for some years?). If anyone at HQ had any political acumen, they would abandon the Reform tribute act, start trying to claw back those that defected to the Lib Dems and try and bring back some of the old big hitters that Johnson/Cummings purged.

They could even, dare I say it, claw back some of the people who lent their vote to Labour at the last election to get rid of the BrexiTory Party but who are disappointed at the lack of ambition of Starmer in the EU direction and their Reformy policies towards immigration.
 

Beebo

Guru
Just been reminded that Jenrick and Truss were both in favour of remain in 2016.

Somehow in the last 10 years they have become so warped by ideology that they are now beyond salvation. They will do anything to cling on to power.
 
Is it official now? Conservatives = Centre right. Reform = Right. Pick your party to suit.
If not, it bloody well should be. The spilt in the party is now complete.
 
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