Badenoch's (Lack Of) Vision Quest

[Pross]

Badenoch has said she will reduce Student loan interest.

Remind me who set the interest for the last 14 years?

The response is the same from her to everything, she seems to expect people to forget they were in charge for 14 years and did nothing to remedy all these problems they’ve now realised exist (and actually caused many of them). We have a forumite who is similar and suddenly started noticing things around July 2024 that they’d previously been blissfully unaware of despite others regularly highlighting them.

 

[briantrumpet]

Did anyone see this? Sounds like fun!

 

[briantrumpet]

God, she's insufferable - just a total inability to listen or take in information that conflicts with her standpoint.

https://bsky.app/profile/adambienkov.bsky.social/post/3mfjcwuktss2n

 

[bobzmyunkle]

View: https://x.com/KemiBadenoch/status/2026963588246573426?s=20

 

[secretsqirrel]

View: https://x.com/KemiBadenoch/status/2026963588246573426?s=20

The voters have spoken. She lost her deposit.

 

[First Aspect]

View: https://x.com/KemiBadenoch/status/2026963588246573426?s=20

Shouldn't this be in the NACA political jokes thread?

 

[briantrumpet]

The voters have spoken. She lost her deposit.

I suspect this underlines that Reform will usurp Tories completely in 'red wall' constituencies, simply because they can't out-Reform Reform. I can't see any way back for the Tory Party at the moment, as they are won't do the logical thing of trying to reclaim the pragmatic centre-right position the served them electorally well for so long.

 

[All uphill]

I suspect this underlines that Reform will usurp Tories completely in 'red wall' constituencies, simply because they can't out-Reform Reform. I can't see any way back for the Tory Party at the moment, as they are won't do the logical thing of trying to reclaim the pragmatic centre-right position the served them electorally well for so long.

It may be logical but I suspect there are very few middle-ground people left in their membership.

 

[briantrumpet]

It may be logical but I suspect there are very few middle-ground people left in their membership.

'Membership' seems to be tangential these days (if you mean party membership, rather than MPs) - neither Labour nor Tories have the millions they once had. But yes, the same about MPs - all the sensible/able ones seem to have given up, and apart from the odd 'grandee' (Clarke, Heseltine, etc) who still sound sane and pragmatic, the MPs are invisible and without any sign of sense, led by someone who not only seems to live by the tweet, but, shall we say, not a natural icon for the type of Reform voter they are pitching their X-focused messages towards.

 

[Dorset Boy]

So who are all these 'middle ground' voters voting for? The Conservatives were never going to anything but badly here given the nature of the constituency.
Certainly not the Lib Dems who did even worse then them.
They don't seem keen on voting Labour either given the collapse in the Labour vote.
The only winners last night were the Greens and Reform. For the 3 traditional parties it was a disaster.

 

[Cirrus]

I can't see any way back for the Tory Party at the moment, as they are won't do the logical thing of trying to reclaim the pragmatic centre-right position the served them electorally well for so long.

If they go back to their roots they will probably end up in an alliance with Labour 😂

 

[briantrumpet]

If they go back to their roots they will probably end up in an alliance with Labour 😂

That would be funny. At the moment, I don't think they've got anything to offer: they've lost the right wing nutters to Reform, and the 'wets' are homeless, in effect, not least as Badenoch overtly stated she didn't want a broad church. Excluding generally sympathetic people from a shrinking party is a bold strategy.

 

[All uphill]

If I was a property developer I'd be looking at all those Conservative Clubs as being ripe for redevelopment.

 

[briantrumpet]

So who are all these 'middle ground' voters voting for? The Conservatives were never going to anything but badly here given the nature of the constituency.
Certainly not the Lib Dems who did even worse then them.
They don't seem keen on voting Labour either given the collapse in the Labour vote.
The only winners last night were the Greens and Reform. For the 3 traditional parties it was a disaster.

It's genuinely a mystery to me how the 'middle ground' seems such a desert. Badenoch has abandoned it, Labour kind of have a foot in it, but also trying to appeal to Reformists, so scaring off centrists, and Lib Dems... well, who knows?

 

[AuroraSaab]

A few of the political clubs have gone round here, as have the ex servicemen's type clubs. Too expensive to run and people don't want to sit in some scruffy old bar chatting politics anymore.