Badenoch's (Lack Of) Vision Quest

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Rusty Nails

Country Member
Badenoch and Jenrick are trying to out-Reform Reform with their jumping on the bandwagon of the racist flag-raising campaign taking place across much of England. This is not about showing love for or pride in one's country but more about showing Johnny foreignor that this is our country and they are not welcome here.

Badenoch's latest comments on the flags and Jenrick's cheap publicity stunt further demean them and their party
 

C R

Guru
Badenoch and Jenrick are trying to out-Reform Reform with their jumping on the bandwagon of the racist flag-raising campaign taking place across much of England. This is not about showing love for or pride in one's country but more about showing Johnny foreignor that this is our country and they are not welcome here.

Badenoch's latest comments on the flags and Jenrick's cheap publicity stunt further demean them and their party

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briantrumpet

Veteran
Badenoch and Jenrick are trying to out-Reform Reform with their jumping on the bandwagon of the racist flag-raising campaign taking place across much of England. This is not about showing love for or pride in one's country but more about showing Johnny foreignor that this is our country and they are not welcome here.

Badenoch's latest comments on the flags and Jenrick's cheap publicity stunt further demean them and their party

They've vacated their right-of-centre pragmatic home, and now are totally adrift, hoping to ingratiate themselves with the xenophobic family in Reform Avenue. It's both sad and rubbish for democracy. The house they vacated is up for grabs, but no-one seems to want to take on the tenancy, which bemuses me.
 
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Psamathe

Psamathe

Veteran
They've vacated their right-of-centre pragmatic home, and now are totally adrift, hoping to ingratiate themselves with the xenophobic family in Reform Avenue. It's both sad and rubbish for democracy. The house they vacated is up for grabs, but no-one seems to want to take on the tenancy, which bemuses me.
Trouble Badenoch has in appealing to the racist element is eg give Badenock a platform for 30 mins followed by Farange for 30 mins (or vice versa) and who would inspire those present and get their "X" in their box. No prizes for recognising who'd get elected.
 

C R

Guru
Trouble Badenoch has in appealing to the racist element is eg give Badenock a platform for 30 mins followed by Farange for 30 mins (or vice versa) and who would inspire those present and get their "X" in their box. No prizes for recognising who'd get elected.

The trouble Badenoch has in appealing to the racist element is that she is the wrong colour.
 

Ian H

Squire
The trouble Badenoch has in appealing to the racist element is that she is the wrong colour.

Kemi Badenoch reveals ‘hysterical’ level of personal attacks faced as a black woman
Tory leader tells Sunday Times she is surprised at amount of racism she has experienced since taking up post
[Guardian]

Perhaps she thought that being Tory would insulate her from the level of abuse that, say, Diane Abbott, gets.

How do you deal with the sheer evil nastiness of some anonymous online abuse?
 

Xipe Totec

Something nasty in the woodshed
The trouble Badenoch has in appealing to the racist element is that she is the wrong colour.

Well, clearly not. Logically, after she ceased to be Nigerian & became English after migrating to the UK, and after taking up employment in McDonalds, she no longer had a privileged & privately-educated upbringing and became working-class - obviously once she had ascended to the heights of Tory Party leadership and whole-heartedly embraced racism, she inevitably & automatically ceased to be black.
 

Ian H

Squire
In case you've forgotten him...

Dear Mogg
The tiger waits. At any moment Farage will throw in the flannel and it’ll be all over for Badi Keminoch. At that moment I will step forward, wrench Excalibur from the Gordian Knot and reclaim the throne.
Tampax Britannia
Boris

[Michael Rosen, of course!]
 
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Psamathe

Psamathe

Veteran
Another "what planet or alternatate Universe am I living in". To me completely beggars belief. Such naivety
Tories would maximise North Sea oil and gas extraction, Badenoch to say
The Conservative party will aim to “maximise extraction” of oil and gas in the North Sea if it wins power, Kemi Badenoch has pledged.
...
She will announce the Tories plan to overhaul the North Sea Transition Authority, which oversees the issuing of licences, dropping the word transition and replacing its 12-page mandate with a simple order to extract the maximum possible amount of fossil fuel.
Shows such stupidity, such lack of recognition of science, such lack of appreciation of those already facing extreme weather, such little foresight for the future, such lack of even wanting to improve things for the UK/World.

And asking myself why? I can only guess she's trying to take on Farangę but doesn't she appreciate that all things being equal, were she to adopt identical policies Farangê has charisma and she doesn't but she (and "her" party) do have a record of disastrous failure. Trying to take on Reform is never going to work for them and they need to be different not the same.
 

secretsqirrel

Active Member
Another "what planet or alternatate Universe am I living in". To me completely beggars belief. Such naivety

Shows such stupidity, such lack of recognition of science, such lack of appreciation of those already facing extreme weather, such little foresight for the future, such lack of even wanting to improve things for the UK/World.

And asking myself why? I can only guess she's trying to take on Farangę but doesn't she appreciate that all things being equal, were she to adopt identical policies Farangê has charisma and she doesn't but she (and "her" party) do have a record of disastrous failure. Trying to take on Reform is never going to work for them and they need to be different not the same.

Well she can say goodbye to any youth voters. They have the biggest stake in the environment,

Following Trump “drill baby drill” just shows a lack of leadership and planning.

My guess is that she is really saying this for the attention because she is getting left behind.
 

All uphill

Well-Known Member
AIn case you've forgotten him...

Dear Mogg
The tiger waits. At any moment Farage will throw in the flannel and it’ll be all over for Badi Keminoch. At that moment I will step forward, wrench Excalibur from the Gordian Knot and reclaim the throne.
Tampax Britannia
Boris

[Michael Rosen, of course!]

Another "what planet or alternatate Universe am I living in". To me completely beggars belief. Such naivety

Shows such stupidity, such lack of recognition of science, such lack of appreciation of those already facing extreme weather, such little foresight for the future, such lack of even wanting to improve things for the UK/World.

And asking myself why? I can only guess she's trying to take on Farangę but doesn't she appreciate that all things being equal, were she to adopt identical policies Farangê has charisma and she doesn't but she (and "her" party) do have a record of disastrous failure. Trying to take on Reform is never going to work for them and they need to be different not the same.

Bring back One Nation Tories.

(There's no chance, imo)
 

All uphill

Well-Known Member
My impression is that where politics used to be a fight for the centre ground. These days it seems more a fight for the extremes (incl Labour). And it's not the electorate pushing them there, they are pushing the electorate there.

I agree. It seems very strange to me. The old game theory idea of the ice cream salesman, which suggests the inevitable drive to the centre, seems to have been overtaken by the appeal of the extreme.

I saw something similar in Iran in 1978, and we know where that led.

I find it depressing.
 
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briantrumpet

Veteran
Bring back One Nation Tories.

(There's no chance, imo)

If Hunt had the appetite, I think he could probably just about pull off the act of claiming he'd only reluctantly gone along with all the Johnsonian bullshit all Tory ministers had to espouse once the Brexit die was cast... he's been persuaded in light the evidence of everything that's happened since that Brexit was a mistake that has harmed Britain's standing in the world, that Johnson's (Carrie Johnson's?) embracing of a green agenda is the only sensible way forward (not least as the green energy sector is booming), and that Tories really are the party of business and growth, so reducing trade barriers while protecting Britain's high trading standards that are an example to the world, is the way to go.




Sorry, I've just had a nice little beer after a splendid sunny walk in the mountains, and I think I might be hallucinating.
 

secretsqirrel

Active Member
If Hunt had the appetite, I think he could probably just about pull off the act of claiming he'd only reluctantly gone along with all the Johnsonian bullshit all Tory ministers had to espouse once the Brexit die was cast... he's been persuaded in light the evidence of everything that's happened since that Brexit was a mistake that has harmed Britain's standing in the world, that Johnson's (Carrie Johnson's?) embracing of a green agenda is the only sensible way forward (not least as the green energy sector is booming), and that Tories really are the party of business and growth, so reducing trade barriers while protecting Britain's high trading standards that are an example to the world, is the way to go.




Sorry, I've just had a nice little beer after a splendid sunny walk in the mountains, and I think I might be hallucinating.

Hunt is one of those politicians that, once out of government and sitting on the opposition back benches has the freedom to say what he really thinks.

He has empathy with Rachel Reeves, and probably talks with her.
He thinks Starmer is doing a good job on the international stage.
And (shock horror) thought Brown and Darling handled GFC well.

I don’t know what he thinks of Kemical Badenoch.

Enjoy your beer🍺
 
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