Badenoch's (Lack Of) Vision Quest

[briantrumpet]

A lot of physicists are, and I've heard it described as the study of electrons, but then they can't understand much about matter heavier than hydrogen, so we can take that with a pinch of salt.

There is far more overlap between the subjects than most students of either would care to admit. Physicists think chemistry means organic chemistry, more or less, whereas most chemists thing physicists give up when there are too many protons and electrons in the same place. Neither is true.

I'm sure he's very aware of that (I'm also aware that Feynman says that chemistry is really a branch of physics), but I think he enjoys winding up chemists. Not that I would, you understand.

 

[laurentian]

I'm sure he's very aware of that (I'm also aware that Feynman says that chemistry is really a branch of physics), but I think he enjoys winding up chemists. Not that I would, you understand.

"Biology is applied Chemistry, Chemistry is applied Physics, Physics is applied Maths"

 

[First Aspect]

I'm sure he's very aware of that (I'm also aware that Feynman says that chemistry is really a branch of physics), but I think he enjoys winding up chemists. Not that I would, you understand.

I dimly recall a joke about an engineer, a chemist and a physicist going to a pub.

The punchline was something about the physicist perfectly simulating a spherical horse. Not sure on the route to get there but the point is that it's jolly easy to come up with broad brush models of the universe, but detail is hard.

A lot of astrophysics, incidentally, is spectroscopy. Which is chemistry.

 

[briantrumpet]

I dimly recall a joke about an engineer, a chemist and a physicist going to a pub.

The punchline was something about the physicist perfectly simulating a spherical horse. Not sure on the route to get there but the point is that it's jolly easy to come up with broad brush models of the universe, but detail is hard.

A lot of astrophysics, incidentally, is spectroscopy. Which is chemistry.

At least if the chemists want to make a pre-emptive strike in the war on physicists, you have the head-start on things that go bang at low cost, even if physicists make bigger bangs.

 

[C R]

My clever ex-pupil is very dismissive of chemistry coockery.

Used the correct term from the point of view of a physicist.

 

[C R]

A lot of astrophysics, incidentally, is spectroscopy. Which is chemistry.

no it most definitely is not. It is a tool widely used in coockery chemistry, but it most definitely is physics.

 

[First Aspect]

At least if the chemists want to make a pre-emptive strike in the war on physicists, you have the head-start on things that go bang at low cost, even if physicists make bigger bangs.

We can just poison them so they die in their sleep. It is a more elegant solution.

 

[First Aspect]

no it most definitely is not. It is a tool widely used in coockery chemistry, but it most definitely is physics.

No it isn't. You guys do the basics principles for a hydrogen atom, but if you want to search for anything interesting you need to look at atoms actually joined to one another in complex molecules such as water.

If you want, I'll allow you to acknowledge that chemistry takes the basic physics of spectroscopy to a whole new level.

 

[C R]

No it isn't. You guys do the basics principles for a hydrogen atom, but if you want to search for anything interesting you need to look at atoms actually joined to one another in complex molecules such as water.

If you want, I'll allow you to acknowledge that chemistry takes the basic physics of spectroscopy to a whole new level.

Spectroscopy is the measurement of the energy or power distribution in a frequency range, that's most definitely physics, that you guys can assign certain features of that distribution to changes in configuration of a group of atoms (or subatomic particles) is taxonomy of the spectra.

 

[Rusty Nails]

J

"Biology is applied Chemistry, Chemistry is applied Physics, Physics is applied Maths"

I understand they don't do separate 'A' levels in pure and applied maths any more, just mathematics.

 

[briantrumpet]

This is the one I was dimly recalling.

 

[briantrumpet]

This is sure better than pondering "Badenoch: just why?"

 

[C R]

J


I understand they don't do separate 'A' levels in pure and applied maths any more, just mathematics.

There is Mathematics and Further Mathematics, our middle daughter is doing both.

 

[C R]

This is the one I was dimly recalling.

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Quite.

 

[briantrumpet]

I think I'll avoid this debate with the quantum physics professor whose son I teach.