Badenoch's (Lack Of) Vision Quest

[TailWindHome]

Lol

 

[briantrumpet]

Lol

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'Chaos under Starmer'.

 

[C R]

Lol

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Sounds as stupid as labour voting against them.

 

[midlandsgrimpeur]

Lol

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They should be encouraging him to stand as an MP, one of the few displaying both common sense and a spine!

 

[briantrumpet]

Oof, a pretty comprehensive take-down of Badenoch, from Boris Johnson's comms director.

https://conservativehome.com/2026/0...oned-the-field-now-voters-have-abandoned-her/

 

[briantrumpet]

Looking promising for the Tories in Makerfield.

I gather that the Reform candidate wasn't terribly impressive in Question Time last night... not that that'll make much difference to Reform voters, who'd vote for anyone/anything that says mean things about foreigners, educated people, and women.

 

[Beebo]

Looking promising for the Tories in Makerfield.

I gather that the Reform candidate wasn't terribly impressive in Question Time last night... not that that'll make much difference to Reform voters, who'd vote for anyone/anything that says mean things about foreigners, educated people, and women.

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Restore doing a great job of scuppering Reform.
The two parties are going to nullify each other.
Otherwise they would be on 47%.

 

[secretsqirrel]

Restore doing a great job of scuppering Reform.
The two parties are going to nullify each other.
Otherwise they would be on 47%.

I think we need Truss to come along and create the Refurbish Party.

 

[Psamathe]

Restore doing a great job of scuppering Reform.
The two parties are going to nullify each other.
Otherwise they would be on 47%.

(I suppose more of Reform thread but ...) Makes me wonder if maybe before next General Election Lowe and Färage might find common ground either such that Lowe rejoins Reform or Reform withdraw from a few constituencies (leaving them to Restore" who withdraw from others to avoid splitting the vote. Both parties would benefit (Restore more likely to get more MPs in constituencies where Reform don't stand whilst Reform doesn't have their vote split in loads of other places). I'm sure Fãrage can bluster up some excuse and then just run away from answering any questions about it. Even if they put forward a paper candidate but provide no meney for any publicity and then withdraw the candidate over some concocted excuse 10 mins before the deadline for candidates to stand.

 

[briantrumpet]

(I suppose more of Reform thread but ...) Makes me wonder if maybe before next General Election Lowe and Färage might find common ground either such that Lowe rejoins Reform or Reform withdraw from a few constituencies (leaving them to Restore" who withdraw from others to avoid splitting the vote. Both parties would benefit (Restore more likely to get more MPs in constituencies where Reform don't stand whilst Reform doesn't have their vote split in loads of other places). I'm sure Fãrage can bluster up some excuse and then just run away from answering any questions about it. Even if they put forward a paper candidate but provide no meney for any publicity and then withdraw the candidate over some concocted excuse 10 mins before the deadline for candidates to stand.

I think the far right would have the same problems as the far left (e.g. Corbyn v. Sultana), and the 'pureness' (and electability) of parties/groupings... e.g., if 'whiteness' is a central thing for Restore, even Farage might blanche (excuse the pun) at highlighting it, given the views of the electorate.

 

[secretsqirrel]

(I suppose more of Reform thread but ...) Makes me wonder if maybe before next General Election Lowe and Färage might find common ground either such that Lowe rejoins Reform or Reform withdraw from a few constituencies (leaving them to Restore" who withdraw from others to avoid splitting the vote. Both parties would benefit (Restore more likely to get more MPs in constituencies where Reform don't stand whilst Reform doesn't have their vote split in loads of other places). I'm sure Fãrage can bluster up some excuse and then just run away from answering any questions about it. Even if they put forward a paper candidate but provide no meney for any publicity and then withdraw the candidate over some concocted excuse 10 mins before the deadline for candidates to stand.

If they were going to be that co-operative then they might just as well merge parties. Something tells me the FaRAGE ego would get in the way.

 

[Dorset Boy]

Interesting results for the Asian and Black ethnicities.
Both below the overall average for being just as English, and the Black ethnicity being higher than average for not ever being able to be as English.

 

[briantrumpet]

Interesting results for the Asian and Black ethnicities.
Both below the overall average for being just as English, and the Black ethnicity being higher than average for not ever being able to be as English.

Yeah, it'd be interesting to dig into those a bit more.

 

[Pross]

Interesting results for the Asian and Black ethnicities.
Both below the overall average for being just as English, and the Black ethnicity being higher than average for not ever being able to be as English.

Yep, I was wondering if that was opinion of how it should be or their lived experience. I suspect it's the latter. It's also very interesting that the split on age is the opposite of what most people would probably have guessed.

 

[Psamathe]

Interesting results for the Asian and Black ethnicities.
Both below the overall average for being just as English, and the Black ethnicity being higher than average for not ever being able to be as English.

I wonder who they surveyed. The results might depend if some under the EU Settlement Scheme are included or some on limited term work visas, student visas, etc..

Plus some with dual nationality might hold their country of birth as their own true ethnicity. eg one family member has dual nationality when he emigrated, acquiring dual nationality in the country he emigrated to in later life. Yet whilst he resided in the 2nd country, if asked he'd have described himself as "British" (ie his 2nd nationality was more for residence and rights.